UHF

[Tel boy]

Originally posted by Wheeler777:<br /><strong>well tel boy i don't think anyone would want to see that, but please could you tell me where i or anyone else has said it doe's improve things with ecm's, you will see if you read the thread starter, uhf, which says it all really, this thread is about improving the signal to your stb, making the dreaded red square, less of a problem, no one is saying it will stop ecm's, but it may well make sure it's a real ecm causing a problem and not just a bad signal. <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> W</strong><hr></blockquote><br />Mr_Anfield, who started this topic, says;<br />

Originally posted by Mr_Anfield:<br /><strong>I had a box that was constantly getting "INVALID CARD" or "CANNOT VALIDATE YOUR SMARTCARD"...<br />Upon investigation, i found that the UHF number for the Signal strength had been reset to "21"<br />Once id corrected this to the local transponder settings the problem has gone...100% pure free **, without any "Validation" errors, or box lockups!!!<br />Hope this info might help some of you guys out there !!!!<br />Perhaps it might be a good idea to have a list of UHF numbers on here from different areas, so we can all get the perfect signal (Depentant on your arial of course!!!)<br />[ 29 November 2001: Message edited by: Mr_Anfield ]</strong><hr></blockquote><br />I assumed that we were talking about ECM’s as the message "CANNOT VALIDATE YOUR SMARTCARD"...is typical of an ECM, I have never seen or heard of any1 getting this message because they had a poor signal, have you?

Let me reiterate,

There is NO way what so ever that changing the UHF channel number in Menu 7 – 1 will help reduce ECM’s. <br />& <br />There is NO way what so ever that changing the UHF channel number in Menu 7 – 1 will improve the signal to your STB or stop the Red Square problem.

The channels that are broadcast by I*V dig are spread over 6 multiplexes each 1 of these carries a group of channels, & each multiplex has it’s own UHF frequency. Depending on where you live in the country governs which transmitter you can receive from and what frequencies you will receive the muliplexes on.

The signal strength function (Menu 7 – 1 ) is only a signal meter (not a very accurate one at that), all STB’s seem to have this factory set to 21, changing this setting to a different frequency (1 of the 6 ) that you receive on will show the signal that you are receiving. You are receiving this signal all the time not just when you put in the # that makes the green bar appear.

I hope this has cleared up the confusion over this issue.

For a list of the transmitters & multiplex frequencies look <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception" target="_blank">&gt;&gt; HERE &lt;&lt;</a>

Tel. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

[ 02 December 2001: Message edited by: Tel boy ]</p>

 

[hardon]

south east kent, 45 <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

 

[Wheeler777]

certainley seems to have helped mr.anfield our thread starter, seems to have helped me too, anyone else ?, this thread could go on forever <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

W

 

[Tel boy]

Originally posted by Wheeler777:<br /><strong>certainley seems to have helped mr.anfield our thread starter, seems to have helped me too, anyone else ?, this thread could go on forever <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> W</strong><hr></blockquote><br />It’s psychological M8….seek psychiatric help. <img src="graemlins/crazy.gif" border="0" alt="[crazy]" />

Tel. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">

 

[marrrrrrtin]

I'm with Tel Boy on this everybody, where I'm from the multiplexers used are 41, 44, 47, 51, 55, and 65 (i think - off the top of my head). All i've ever used these for is positioning my arial. By this I mean you change the UHF number in your box to the multiplexers being used in your area. then you reposition your arial so that you get a green signal on all your multiplexers. This just ensures you get all the channels available in your area.

 

[owenzy]

is it not the case that mr_anfield started this thread just to get a listing, a sort of quick reference, so that you can look up ur area ( without getting all technical) to see what the best frequency is for ur area? e.g.:-<br />Glasgow ch 51.<br />London ch ??.<br />Manchester ch ??.<br />etc......<br />i know from experience, sitting by the stb, going from ch21 to ch69 to see what the was giving the best reading in 7-1, is a boring task!!!!<br />all this would do is to let u know (if ur area is listed) what the best channel is to tune ur box to without wasting an hour of ur life , when u could be on the forum!!!!!<br /> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

 

[skcl]

Well I'm glad to see Tel Boy agrees with me, other people just slated me. As he says (and I said earlier) menu 7-1 is a signal meter, changing the UHF value here just displays what you are receiving, doesn't stop it clashing with videos etc and doesn't affect picture quality or anything else. The only setting that does make a difference is the one in the ** settings page where you can change the UHF Output channel and this will improve things greatly if it clashes with an analogue channel (or your video etc.)

 

[Wheeler777]

oh turned to insults have we, pass a comment or an opinion, which is all it is, and some person takes offense, pity and sad. <img src="frown.gif" border="0">

W

[ 03 December 2001: Message edited by: Wheeler777 ]</p>

 

[skcl]

I'm sorry if you take offence Wheeler777, I was just expressing my opinion, as I think I understand the way I*******l boxes work and thought it may help others to understand. It appears only one other person agrees with me, so maybe I am wrong and you are right <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

No offence or personal remark was intended, I am not that sort of person. This forum is far too useful to stoop to that.

 

[cpwade]

I know a friend of mine in Bradford who couldn't get the I** Spor*Selec* on Sunday changed the UHF to 40 as advised earlier and the channel came through perfectly ?!?! Explanations anyone, this couldn't just be a fluke ?!?!?! <img src="graemlins/dizzy.gif" border="0" alt="[dizzy]" /> <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

 

[cpwade]

I see the moderators are staying out of this one (Mickie, Gazer, damage34, Highlander, c0sm0ss, Goldberg, johnny5) please shed some light on this topic, eh !?! B4 this turns any uglier. <img src="confused.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/cracker.gif" border="0" alt="[cracker]" />

 

[NorthDave]

I can't understand it but when I checked my signal strength the box definately changed channels quicker than it did before.

Dont ask me why. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

 

[Stella]

I agree with skcl. 7,1 is just a meter it shows the strength of signal on the number you select. Thats all...........

 

[Wheeler777]

didnt mean you skcl and sorry if you thought i did, you were certainly not offensive, i would have thought what i meant was obvious to all, the person i meant was tel boy, no one else, i appologise again if anyone else thought otherwise.

W

 

[Tel boy]

Originally posted by Tel boy:<br /><strong><br />It’s psychological M8….seek psychiatric help. <img src="graemlins/crazy.gif" border="0" alt="[crazy]" />

Tel. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote><br />Call that an insult…..haven’t you got a sense of humour M8?

Tel. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

[ 04 December 2001: Message edited by: Tel boy ]</p>

 

[junger]

Will someone explain how i can put a photo of the raw signals up on the post so that we can put this to bed please, cause i want to go to bed.<br />Keep the boards alive boys <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

 

[les]

the green gain bar shown is only a display for info to give you an idea as to how strong a signal you are recieving on a particular channel.<br />changing this does not adjust signal quality as this can only be done by your aerial or by a booster.

 

[cosmoss]

cpwade, sorry m8 but I'll leave this topic to you guys to sort out, not something I'm too well up on... but I'm enjoying seeing this thread roll on, I'm sure you'll get the answer eventually. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

 

[SteveR]

I dunno now. Just changed to a channel i know gives bad signal strengh and I can still get all my channels. Maybe I am wrong. <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

 

[skcl]

Oops, how silly do I feel now!