hi HUGGI,ive tried a cdrw and it still wont load,i found a site last night where a bloke put a dvd disc in for about 5 seconds then swapped it for a copied vcd and then it loads,i tried last night and eventually it loaded but that was as far as it went,the time came up on the player but it wouldnt play,tried it again today and player just spits it out,found another site today saying that the sammy 709 will play all samsung cdrs......zooropa