Win 10 Latest update- Creators' edition.

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I have two Win10 PC's which are in regular use- my HP i7 'sofa-surfer' and a much older (ex-Vista) Fujitsu I use in the workshop. (I'd hate to part with that one as it has a really nice keyboard lol!). The latter updated itself the other day to 10's latest incarnation, calling itself the Creators' Edition. (Note you have to go in and re-do your privacy settings if you don't like MS's snooping)
It has a few nice tweaks, so I 'fast-forwarded' the process to get it on my HP.
After a few re-boots it seems to have settled down & everything appears to work as it should.
But is it just me, or is it still 'business as usual' with MS updates? I feel it's getting 'heavier' with every update, taking longer and longer to boot. 10 used to boot in seconds- literally, and I loved it for that. (The trade-off being a much longer shut-down process than previous versions, but who cares about that?).
I ran CCleaner to see if that could shed any light on the slow start-up and sure enough, a few more (useless) programs had sneaked into start-up (OneDrive for instance), once disabled there was a slight improvement. What I also saw was an alarming number of registry errors referring to .net framework (whatever that is), seems a bit strange for a brand new update- these errors weren't there before the update as I regularly check.
Anyone else experiencing similar?
 

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Windows generally gets slower over time. You could try a fresh install. Although I'm not sure if the ISO on the MS website has been updated to the Creators Update, so you may find yourself in the same situation after running updates... (I don't see why it wouldn't have been updated; but haven't had need to download it to check since it was made available.)

Because you've said you keep an eye on the registry; I'm going to assume you've checked the available disk space on your C: drive, and ran disk clean-up if needed.

The registry errors could be items that have been incompletely removed during the update. Even if not, CCleaner is a popular tool for cleaning up the registry en masse.
 

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@trevortron you might want to try using an imaging software (Acronis etc.) so you don't have to install from scratch every time. You could install, take an image then install your programs and take images on the way. Then when things start going wrong, as @little_pob says (Windows starts slowing over time), you can re-image in minutes. Got to remember to back up critical files or keep them on another machine though.
 

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Thanks for the tips @little_pob and @Spectre . C: drive (1.5TB mechanical) is about half full, a lot of that MP3 & FLAC files.
I'll probably transfer the music to a NAS (one day...) other than settings I don't think there is much 'critical' material on there.
I'm sure I have a (cracked) copy of Acronis somewhere, I'll have a look at that- never really knew what it was for!
 

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For most people, mechanical drives become noticeably slower at around the 50% full mark. (Power users might notice it sooner. Light users, not until it's much fuller.)

I'd recommend keeping the OS and data storage on separate physical drives, even if it's just a second mechanical drive. But grabbing a 120/128GB SSDs will be the best £50 upgrade you could ever do for your sofa-surfer.
 

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For most people, mechanical drives become noticeably slower at around the 50% full mark. (Power users might notice it sooner. Light users, not until it's much fuller.)

I'd recommend keeping the OS and data storage on separate physical drives, even if it's just a second mechanical drive. But grabbing a 120/128GB SSDs will be the best £50 upgrade you could ever do for your sofa-surfer.

Thanks for the tips guys.

Funnily enough the older machine does have a SSD, it's one I bought for my old Technomate 7102 but it ended up being 'spare'- so I dropped it into the old Fujutsu & it certainly sped the old thing up. But I don't store much on that machine, it's used mostly for reference purposes & playing music off my NAS when I'm in the workshop. So its drive isn't clogged up with crap really and it still boots in a flash.
On the one with the mechanical drive (the HP) I've just emptied the recycle bin- all 300+ GB of it!! (So now C: is less than half full). Now I know there is some disagreement as to whether NTFS needs de-fragging or not. At the moment I am letting CCleaner 'wipe' the free space (14 hours to go :rolleyes: ), I'll see how that goes & if it still feels laggy I will look into the other more complex suggestions.
It's a laptop too so I don't think I'd be able to fit a second HDD for the OS. But it was well quick enough for me when it was new so hopefully we can get it back to how it was then.
 
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