Glastonbury? No, Germany: Obama gets rock star welcome

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For the man who has brought rock star charisma to electoral politics, yesterday saw the campaign rally as pop festival, a summer gathering of peace, love and loathing of George Bush.

Taking what he calls his "improbable journey" to the heart of Europe, Barack Obama succeeded in closing down one of Berlin's main thoroughfares last night, luring the city's young in their tens of thousands to stand in the evening sunshine and hear him spin his dreams of hope - not for America this time, but for the whole world.

The young and the pierced, some with guitars slung over their shoulders, others barefoot, jammed up against each other to cheer on a man who in less than a year has surely become the world's most popular serving politician even if, as yet, he has been elected to no office grander than the junior senate seat for Illinois.

Expectations had been impossibly high, with predictions of a million-strong crowd filling the Strasse des 17 Juni, the wide avenue that links the Brandenburg gate with the gold-topped Victory Column, the Siegessäule.

The candidate himself had sought to lower expectations, telling reporters on his plane on the way here that he doubted he would be greeted in Berlin by "a million screaming Germans".

Once the Glastonbury-style warm-up bands and DJs were quiet, the Democratic nominee almost floated into view, walking to the podium on a raised, blue-carpeted runway as if he were somehow, magically, walking on water.

Even from a distance, the brilliant white of his teeth dazzled. It was a reminder that the latest edition of Stern magazine features Obama on the cover above the line: Saviour - or seducer?

The speech was not one of Obama's masterpieces, but it certainly cleared the exceptionally high standard he has set himself.

Poetically, he reminded Berliners of what they would surely regard as their finest hours, their resilience during the blockade some 60 years ago - when the Soviet Union tried "to extinguish the last flame of freedom" - and the fall of the Berlin wall in 1989, an event which, he said, opened the "doors of democracy" all over the world.

But the loudest applause came when Obama, however subtly, offered himself as the coming antidote to all that Germans, Europeans - and most non-Americans - have disliked about the Bush era.

After listing a series of global problems, from genocide in Darfur to loose nukes, he declared: "No one nation, no matter how large or how powerful, can defeat such challenges alone." It was a promise to end the unilateralism of the early Bush years and the crowd could not contain their delight. There was no less warmth when Obama explained his belief in "allies who will listen to each other, who will learn from each other, who will, above all, trust each other".

Again and again he uttered sentences that could never have come from the mouth of George Bush. "This is the moment to secure the peace of the world without nuclear weapons," he said. On Iraq, the aim was "to finally bring this war to a close".

He asked if today's generation was ready to seize the moment that was at hand. "Will we reject torture and stand for the rule of law?" he asked. "Will we welcome immigrants from different lands?" As for the threat of climate change, he spoke in language that could not have been more sweeping or epic: "This is the moment we must come together to save this planet."
He didn't spell out that he would reverse much of the course of the last eight years, but that was only because he didn't have to.

"This is an anti-Bush rally," said one thrilled Berliner, an employee of the German government reluctant to reveal his name because of his job.

He said the last time he had seen such a crowd in the same place was for the Love Parade music festival "and you can see the similarities".

There was only one dissonant note, but Obama's mood music covered it nicely.

Invoking the spirit of the airlift of 1948, he called for there to be more "sharing [of] the burden" between Germany and America, code for his request for Germany to send more troops for the Nato mission in Afghanistan. "We have too much at stake to turn back now."

Germany's politicians had given their response to that earlier in the day, with Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, telling the senator there were "limits" on how much Germany could do.

The move came after the German cabinet had voted to increase the number of troops deployed from 1,000 to 4,500. Overall, though, the mood was warm, even joyful, a sign perhaps of just how deep the yearning outside the US is to end the current era - and to have an America which non-Americans can believe in again.

Andreas Wernicke, 27, a computer salesman, said the idea of an African-American US president was "just totally cool". If it happened, he said, "You could tell yourself that, yes, the world does advance."

By common consent, last night - and the entire Obama week - has been a huge success, generating priceless images for TV consumption back home and helping the Democrat cross the credibility gap, making it easier for American voters to imagine him as a player on the world stage.

His team believes the notion that the US will regain the world's respect under a President Obama will help persuade many American voters to back him.

Last night's pictures from Berlin will have further discomfited John McCain, who has struggled for media oxygen during a week of near-constant coverage of his opponent's grand tour.

He complained on Fox News on Wednesday that he was barely getting a look in. "All I can do is be amused," he said manfully.

· Jess Smee contributed to this report

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Amazing reception but I wonder how he will feel if he loses the election which I think he will. Obama mania seems to be running wild, his campaign team seem to be doing one hell of a job.

Personally I don't like the fact that he is behaving like he has won the election.

Did anyone see the story on Newsnight? The interviews with the voters in the southern state were hilarious.
 
Did anyone see the story on Newsnight? The interviews with the voters in the southern state were hilarious.


Yeah I seen them, some of them were classic !! " I don't like him because.......eh....em......I have a bad feeling about him" lol

" I just prefer the other(white) guy" lol

Don't think any of them wanted to ruin thier chances of being the Grand Dragon this year lol
 
personally I couldn't care who wins but Obama is 1/3 on while McCain is 2/1 so he seems way out in front at the moment
 
I would love to know who funds these campaigns, the people in the shadows. since Obama is flying round on his own private 747, what's wrong with EasyJet? and swanning about on one of those plane/copter hybrids with swivel props.
 
Yeah I seen them, some of them were classic !! " I don't like him because.......eh....em......I have a bad feeling about him" lol

" I just prefer the other(white) guy" lol

Don't think any of them wanted to ruin thier chances of being the Grand Dragon this year lol

I'm glad you caught that, I thought it was hilarious too, well done to the BBC for staging that so well.

I think big businesses front the presidential candidates davelee, hence the conspiracy theories.

I don't think that Obama will win, the democrats screwed up big time by fielding a black candidate when practically any white candidate would have breezed the election due to George Bush's track record.

I wasn't aware that Obama was favourite for the presidential race, surely we wont be seeing the first ever black president?
 
i think it's all preordained, like when the election in Florida fiasco, what was it punching holes or crosses in the right place on ballot slips, can't recall.

also the difference between a state and country confuses me?
 
McCain will win.

War hero, who has always tried to spend less of peoples money, over guy who speaks a lot of platitudes.

'We will fight the good fight and change the world, by making it better, with our hearts strong, never stopping in the face of darkness, striving at every opportunity to create positive relationships, and bringing the world together, breaking down those invisible barriers that keep us apart, we together can make the world a better place to live.'

I just made that up, and probably said as much as obama has ever said about serious policies.

He is a gas, a vapour.

Then again I am a cynic.
 
your right m8 ,, theres know way theres going to be a black president in the us , its as right wing as its ever been and even the black voters dont like him ..
 
McCain will win.

War hero, who has always tried to spend less of peoples money, over guy who speaks a lot of platitudes.

'We will fight the good fight and change the world, by making it better, with our hearts strong, never stopping in the face of darkness, striving at every opportunity to create positive relationships, and bringing the world together, breaking down those invisible barriers that keep us apart, we together can make the world a better place to live.'

I just made that up, and probably said as much as obama has ever said about serious policies.

He is a gas, a vapour.

Then again I am a cynic.

WOW Moz...you should write for the politicans or even be one...that really sounded like something Obama would say. :Clap:


I agree, McCain will win even though he is not the favorite at the bookies. If I was a gambler I would diffenitely put some money on McCain. Obama seems like a stuck up prick to me.
 
McCain will win.

War hero, who has always tried to spend less of peoples money, over guy who speaks a lot of platitudes.

'We will fight the good fight and change the world, by making it better, with our hearts strong, never stopping in the face of darkness, striving at every opportunity to create positive relationships, and bringing the world together, breaking down those invisible barriers that keep us apart, we together can make the world a better place to live.'

I just made that up, and probably said as much as obama has ever said about serious policies.

He is a gas, a vapour.

Then again I am a cynic.

get in there while it's 2/1 then
http://www.easyodds.com/compareodds/specials/Politics/m/51363-234-3.html
 
I get all my news from 'the corbert report'

but at the end of the day neither have power they are just front men or in mccains case undead, for the people behind the scenes.
 
but at the end of the day neither have power they are just front men or in mccains case undead, for the people behind the scenes.

Of course they are....surely no one really thinks Dubya is the most powerful man in the world....do they ???
 
Of course they are....surely no one really thinks Dubya is the most powerful man in the world....do they ???

So far as economics go his economy is one of the most powerful.
His army is probably currently unrivalled
He personally has interests in some of the US's biggest companies
If you're an American citizen he can take all of your money and put you in prison with no questions asked (his predecessors could not do this)

Surely that makes him pretty darn powerful in anyone's eyes?
 
So far as economics go his economy is one of the most powerful.
His army is probably currently unrivalled
He personally has interests in some of the US's biggest companies
If you're an American citizen he can take all of your money and put you in prison with no questions asked (his predecessors could not do this)

Surely that makes him pretty darn powerful in anyone's eyes?

Maybe you didnt pick me up right munkey or I didnt put it down right as I was responding to the post above mine.....I meant Dubya himself is just the front man for the US government.
I am aware that the US itself is a world force and pretty God damn powerful but Dubya can hardly even talk right, he is a puppet and the puppet masters are like all good puppet masters...they are unseen and they pull the strings.

btw...I am not one of those Dubya haters.
 
Maybe you didnt pick me up right munkey or I didnt put it down right as I was responding to the post above mine.....I meant Dubya himself is just the front man for the US government.
I am aware that the US itself is a world force and pretty God damn powerful but Dubya can hardly even talk right, he is a puppet and the puppet masters are like all good puppet masters...they are unseen and they pull the strings.

btw...I am not one of those Dubya haters.

I love Bush too :)

As he is part of a political dynasty he was born into power. I don't think intelligence has anything to do with being powerful. Money and birth rights ultimately influence how powerful you are.

Bush is much more than a front man for the neocons, before 9/11 he was rarely associated with the neocon movement as he was opposed to the idea of nation building.
 
did bush even get his high school diploma? did he go to college? I bet if I gave him a globe he could not find the UK, Iran, Iraq, Afganistan.

it should not be a single head of state but several.
 
your right m8 ,, theres know way theres going to be a black president in the us , its as right wing as its ever been and even the black voters dont like him ..
dont know where ur getting that info from m8... @ least 90% of the black voters r in favor of him
 
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