DM800 Server or PC Server

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Hi,

New to this site. Iv been using a DM800HD and card sharing with few of my mates (about 7-10). Used the DM800 as a server with a Sky card.

But iv heard from people about using a pc as a card sharing server (as i have a spare PC lying around). Does anyone know the advantages of using a PC as a cardshare server?

Thanks
 
If it's just 7-10 clients, then you should be fine as you are.
it only really becomes necessary when you're pushing 30+ clients.
no need to pay for the additional 50w per hour to run a pc server.
only if, maybe, stability becomes an issue, as people do fret over using the DM800 clone as a server no thanks to its past history

incidently, how is the stability on your dm800?
does it need reboots often?
i'm thinking of switching my dm500 server out for an 800 so i can use it as a crude NAS at the same time.
 
thanks for that. A few of my mates have complained recently about the picture lagging and has happened to me a few times. Mine is a DM800 clone.

PC server is just somthing i would just like to set up as a trial and learn about to expand my view on different server methods for card sharing.

I noticed there is a tutorial to set up card sharing on DM800 but havent seen a guide on PC server. Does anyone know where to get a card sharing pc server guide?

Thanks
 
your better off using a server specifically as a server. I.E: dont tie up CPU and memory by also using it as a viewing box. A DM800HD is probably overkill to use as a server for a small amount of clients.
Your better off having a DM500 with no direct sat feed, just running your card server and sitting in standby. Therefore minimum CPU and mem utilisation, use a MaxVar image and use the reciever purely for the server function.
I do know of someone using a DM800HD as server because it is apparently faulty, and they cant be bothered to fix it, so use it purely as a server and from what i understand they have no issues with it.
 
thanks for that. A few of my mates have complained recently about the picture lagging and has happened to me a few times. Mine is a DM800 clone.

PC server is just somthing i would just like to set up as a trial and learn about to expand my view on different server methods for card sharing.

I noticed there is a tutorial to set up card sharing on DM800 but havent seen a guide on PC server. Does anyone know where to get a card sharing pc server guide?

Thanks
here is a how to install ubuntu with oscam/cccam and smargo reading sly uk card

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first you want to install ubuntu . i use 10.04 but i think any version will work aslong as its the server edidtion.

after you have installed ubuntu log into your server with the username you created during install
then enter your password
then to get as root we need to type sudo -i then press enter, it will ask for password enter password you use for your user

this is how you will always be able to loggin as root

now you are logged in as root.

1. give your server a static ip. put this line in and press enter

nano /etc/network/interfaces

change the dhcp to static then under it put like this
address 192.168.1.78
netmask 255.255.255.0
broadcast 192.168.1.78
gateway 192.168.1.254

of course these are example ips so please change to your own ips

once done hold ctrl+x press y then enter
now to restart network put this line in

/etc/init.d/networking restart

you should now have static ip on your server

2. install SSh
apt-get install openssh-server

3. update sources list
apt-get update

4. install FTP server
apt-get install proftpd (standalone)

after this reboot server

now download winSCP and Putty

winSCP download link here

HTML Code:
http://winscp.net/eng/download.phpputty download here

HTML Code:
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/5.now open putty and enter your servers ip then press enter
put your user then password then sudo -i then password and press enter
you are in terminal as root on remote computer you can also just use your server but you may find using remote pc easier

now copy or add 1 by 1 these lines into terminal pressing enter after each one

mkdir /var/etc
mkdir /var/keys
mkdir /var/script
mkdir /var/config
mkdir /var/backup
mkdir /var/cccamlog
mkdir /var/www

chown scott /var/etc
chown scott /var/keys
chown scott /var/script
chown scott /var/config
chown scott /var/backup
chown scott /var/cccamlog
chown scott /usr/local/bin
chown scott /usr/local/etc
chown scott /var/www

6. now put CCcam.x86 in usr/local/bin also put oscam in usr/local/bin use winscp to put the files in each directory. install winscp add a log in with username the one you made on install of ubuntu and password you made on install of ubuntu

chmod both files

chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/CCcam.x86
chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/oscam

7. put your oscam.conf oscam.server and oscam.user in /usr/local/etc

then put your cccam.cfg and provider and channel list in /var/etc

ok to get oscam to read your sly uk card you need to add this n line in your cccam.cfg file

N: yourserverip 10000 test1 test2 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 256

8. now what to have in your oscam config files . keep in mind this is for sly uk and smargo reader . some lines will differ with different cards and readers
first file to make is oscam.conf paste this in the file and save


[global]
nice = -1
WaitForCards = 1
logfile = stdout
preferlocalcards = 1
saveinithistory = 1
disablelog = 1

[webif]
httpport = 8888
httpuser = admin
httppwd = admin
httpallowed = 127.0.0.1,192.168.0.0-192.168.255.255

protocols

[newcamd]
key = 0102030405060708091011121314
port = 10000@0963:000000

now make oscam.server paste this in and save file

[reader]
label = skyuk
protocol = smartreader
detect = cd
device = 004:002 ------ you will have to change this.goto part 11.
emmcache = 1,3,2
caid = 0963
boxid = xxxxxxxx ----- put your own boxkey inplace of the x's
blockemm-u = 0
blockemm-s = 0
blockemm-g = 1
blockemm-unknown = 1
mhz = 600
cardmhz = 600
ident = 0963:000000
group = 1

oscam.user paste this in and save file

[account]
user = test1
pwd = test2
monlevel = 0
uniq = 0
group = 1,2
au = skyuk
caid = 0963

9. so now you should have 3 files in usr/local/etc
oscam.conf
oscam.server
oscam.user

chmod 755 all 3
chmod 755 /usr/local/etc/oscam.conf
chmod 755 /usr/local/etc/oscam.server
chmod 755 /usr/local/etc/oscam.user

10.now we put script in for oscam and cccam to start on reboot or start up
in terminal as root put line
nano /etc/rc.local
under the word # by default put these 2 lines in
/usr/local/bin/oscam -b -c /usr/local/etc/ &
/usr/local/bin/CCcam.x86
ctrl+x then y and enter to save

11.now i need you to put right line in oscam.server
in terminal as root enter
lsusb
now you will see a few lines appear. you are only interested in the one that looks like this

Bus 004 device 002: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology devices internation, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial

this is the most important line forget the others. now if you open your oscam.server file you
you will see next to device this
device = 004:002 that is because u can see my bus is 004 and device is 002 in the line that we just got up with lsusb now edit it to what yours is and save your file. if u have put your box id in aswell that is oscam and cccam
configuered .

12. apt-get install apache2

13. apt-get install php5

14. make sure you have opened both your cccam port and the oscam newcs port 10000 to your server. if you have just reboot your server and its ready to go.

15. to check go to your browser and put in youyserverip:8888 user is admin password is admin it will show you your oscam webif

this is the kind of guide i follow but you can get a self install script and just edit the details
 
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wow, thanks for the helpful guide and advice. I do appreciate it and gonna get started on this now. But just a quick question before i begin. If i run a PC server, how will my Sky card be connected to the box, would i have to connect the DM800 to the pc server?

Will i also be able to view channels on the DM800 aswell as running the pc server at the same time?

Thanks
 
wow, thanks for the helpful guide and advice. I do appreciate it and gonna get started on this now. But just a quick question before i begin. If i run a PC server, how will my Sky card be connected to the box, would i have to connect the DM800 to the pc server?

Will i also be able to view channels on the DM800 aswell as running the pc server at the same time?
you would have to get a smargo card reader or the pc would only be connected to the dm so the dm would still be the server

Thanks
you would have to get a smargo card reader or the pc would only be connected to the dm so the dm would still be the server
 
Thanks. Do i have to have a good upload speed, i think i got 1mb with Virgin?

Sorry, i just want to clear a few things up before i make progress. So i would have the PC server running and just have the Smargo card reader connects by USB with the Sky card? Would the Sky white cable connection be needed in this pc server set up?

Thanks
 
Thanks. Do i have to have a good upload speed, i think i got 1mb with Virgin?

Sorry, i just want to clear a few things up before i make progress. So i would have the PC server running and just have the Smargo card reader connects by USB with the Sky card? Would the Sky white cable connection be needed in this pc server set up?

Thanks
1 mb is fine card into usb yes no sat feed required
 
chown scott /var/etc
chown scott /var/keys
chown scott /var/script
chown scott /var/config
chown scott /var/backup
chown scott /var/cccamlog
chown scott /usr/local/bin
chown scott /usr/local/etc
chown scott /var/www

Make sure to change the bits in red to your servers username ;)
 
6. now put CCcam.x86 in usr/local/bin also put oscam in usr/local/bin use winscp to put the files in each directory. install winscp add a log in with username the one you made on install of ubuntu and password you made on install of ubuntu

chmod both files

chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/CCcam.x86
chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/oscam

7. put your oscam.conf oscam.server and oscam.user in /usr/local/etc

then put your cccam.cfg and provider and channel list in /var/etc

Hi,

Finally started the ubuntu server, but have ran into a problem (section 6 of user guide). The user guides asks for files such as cccam.x86, oscam, oscam.conf, oscam.server, oscam.server and cccam.cfg.

I just wanted to know where do i get these files from? as im unable to find them any where

Thanks
 
i have used a dm500s as a standalone server with 3 peers and 18 clients + peers got 2x reshare from me on cccam 2.1.4
has run spot on for over 1yr

if u want a cheap server just use a dm500s

plus the ecm times in the dm500s compared to smargo .etc u cant really get any faster my best ecm time in the dm500 was 0.0498s highest ecm time 0.0956s
with smargo u will be seeing ecm times double that of dm500s

plus the dm500s is very very simple to setup
just load a image pref pli jade 3 maxvar download cccam 2.1.4 plus config or oscam+cccam2.1.3 + configs
then just ftp into it and edit the configs
 
I concur,
question:
i heard that a phoenix card reader gives lower ecm times,
can anyone confirm this?
still got mine knocking about as a memento from the N2 days.
 
ive got a smargo and i just left it to gather dust because of ecm times
i think a proper phoenix comport reader should give similar ecm times as dm500
heard the omnikey is a good 1 for low ecm times
 
Hi,

To be honest, i bought a cheap PC as a server, bought a smargo reader just to set up a pc server, i am halfway through the guide, i dont really want to go out and buy a DM500 since iv already spent money on a pc and a reader.

I am stuck on task 6 of the guide, where it states i need files such as cccam.x86, oscam, oscam.conf, oscam.server. Would be grateful if you can let me know, where i am able to find these files? do i get these files off the internet somehwere or on my DM800 box, if so which directory?

Thanks
 
Hi,

To be honest, i bought a cheap PC as a server, bought a smargo reader just to set up a pc server, i am halfway through the guide, i dont really want to go out and buy a DM500 since iv already spent money on a pc and a reader.

I am stuck on task 6 of the guide, where it states i need files such as cccam.x86, oscam, oscam.conf, oscam.server. Would be grateful if you can let me know, where i am able to find these files? do i get these files off the internet somehwere or on my DM800 box, if so which directory?

Thanks

why not just use the oscamcccaminstall.sh it does everything for you. You can get it from another forum one that talks alt about cccam i would of mailed you it but im away on my holidays.
 
14. make sure you have opened both your cccam port and the oscam newcs port 10000 to your server. if you have just reboot your server and its ready to go.

15. to check go to your browser and put in youyserverip:8888 user is admin password is admin it will show you your oscam webif

Iv finally reached the last few steps of this tutorial. I used the oscam.server, oscam.conf etc files from Firefox1965 and used the cccam.cfg file from my dreambox. I set up my static IP with 192.168.190.130. But im having trouble on step 14 and 15 of the guide. I have tried step 15 by typing in the serverip with the port number but get an error on the browser saying "Unable to connect".

Step 14, which states that i have to open the CCam port and Oscam port 10000 to your server, can anyone shed any light on how to do this?

Thanks
 
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