Anybody watch tonight's Time Team

[Dave Fawthrop]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:15:05 +0100, Andy Davidson <[email protected]>
wrote:


| I had read an interesting article recently which was proposing that a
| gradual turn-off of the UK analogue service be used instead of a
| 'switch-everything-off' date.
|
| The proposal was that BBC 2 join the digital-only channels, which would
| enable the digital signal to be boosted sufficiently, to reach the
| population who are presently unable to receive digital terrestrial.
|
| Pissing people off gradually, rather than everyone at once, does seem to
| make sense to me.

There is a new report on switch off which suggests that it be done region
by region.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/dso_report/

No idea when Emley moor will go digital, but IMO the sooner the better.
I have line of sight to Emly Moor and have had to install a big aerial and
then had to add a amplifier to get good Freeview.

Dave F

 

[Dave Fawthrop]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:55:04 +0100, [email protected] (Steve Firth)
wrote:

| Dave Fawthrop <[email protected]> wrote:
|
| > The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
| > Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
|
| Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
| break the bank, will it?

Our local chippy charges IIRC GBP1 for chips, and restaurants rather more.
I live in expectation rather than hope.

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[Darren J Longhorn]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:55:04 +0100, [email protected] (Steve
Firth) wrote:

>Dave Fawthrop <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
>> Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
>
>Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
>break the bank, will it?

That's still a lot of chips.

 

[Dave Fawthrop]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:15:05 +0100, Andy Davidson <[email protected]>
wrote:


| I had read an interesting article recently which was proposing that a
| gradual turn-off of the UK analogue service be used instead of a
| 'switch-everything-off' date.
|
| The proposal was that BBC 2 join the digital-only channels, which would
| enable the digital signal to be boosted sufficiently, to reach the
| population who are presently unable to receive digital terrestrial.
|
| Pissing people off gradually, rather than everyone at once, does seem to
| make sense to me.

There is a new report on switch off which suggests that it be done region
by region.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/dso_report/

No idea when Emley moor will go digital, but IMO the sooner the better.
I have line of sight to Emly Moor and have had to install a big aerial and
then had to add a amplifier to get good Freeview.

Dave F

 

[Dave Fawthrop]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:55:04 +0100, [email protected] (Steve Firth)
wrote:

| Dave Fawthrop <[email protected]> wrote:
|
| > The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
| > Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
|
| Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
| break the bank, will it?

Our local chippy charges IIRC GBP1 for chips, and restaurants rather more.
I live in expectation rather than hope.

--
Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> Sick of Marketing SMS
Register your: real name, mobile number, snail mail address,
with Telephone Preference Service, [email protected].
IME it *works*

 

[Darren J Longhorn]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:55:04 +0100, [email protected] (Steve
Firth) wrote:

>Dave Fawthrop <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
>> Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
>
>Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
>break the bank, will it?

That's still a lot of chips.

 

[Mike Swift]

In article <1gcfvbn.1cwfblk8nesfxN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
<[email protected]> writes
>> The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
>> Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
>
>Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
>break the bank, will it?

I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing', my dad has a box
and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
and subject to the vagaries of the weather.

I agree it could be the fault of his box, tele, aerial, cables etc., but
it isn't proximity to the transmitter as anyone who knows Kirkheaton
will understand.

I do know that a proportion of my licence fee goes to providing BBC
Freeview channels I can't receive unless I spend even more money on a
box, even if they are 'cheap as chips'.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange
'46 M Y++ L+ U KQ+ c B+ P99S P00S p+ Sh++ S(BAR) R(HD5)

 

[Mike Swift]

In article <1gcfvbn.1cwfblk8nesfxN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
<[email protected]> writes
>> The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
>> Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
>
>Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
>break the bank, will it?

I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing', my dad has a box
and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
and subject to the vagaries of the weather.

I agree it could be the fault of his box, tele, aerial, cables etc., but
it isn't proximity to the transmitter as anyone who knows Kirkheaton
will understand.

I do know that a proportion of my licence fee goes to providing BBC
Freeview channels I can't receive unless I spend even more money on a
box, even if they are 'cheap as chips'.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange
'46 M Y++ L+ U KQ+ c B+ P99S P00S p+ Sh++ S(BAR) R(HD5)

 

[Mike Swift]

In article <1gcfvbn.1cwfblk8nesfxN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
<[email protected]> writes
>> The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
>> Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
>
>Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
>break the bank, will it?

I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing', my dad has a box
and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
and subject to the vagaries of the weather.

I agree it could be the fault of his box, tele, aerial, cables etc., but
it isn't proximity to the transmitter as anyone who knows Kirkheaton
will understand.

I do know that a proportion of my licence fee goes to providing BBC
Freeview channels I can't receive unless I spend even more money on a
box, even if they are 'cheap as chips'.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange
'46 M Y++ L+ U KQ+ c B+ P99S P00S p+ Sh++ S(BAR) R(HD5)

 

[Mike Swift]

In article <1gcfvbn.1cwfblk8nesfxN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
<[email protected]> writes
>> The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
>> Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
>
>Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
>break the bank, will it?

I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing', my dad has a box
and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
and subject to the vagaries of the weather.

I agree it could be the fault of his box, tele, aerial, cables etc., but
it isn't proximity to the transmitter as anyone who knows Kirkheaton
will understand.

I do know that a proportion of my licence fee goes to providing BBC
Freeview channels I can't receive unless I spend even more money on a
box, even if they are 'cheap as chips'.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange
'46 M Y++ L+ U KQ+ c B+ P99S P00S p+ Sh++ S(BAR) R(HD5)

 

[Mike Swift]

In article <1gcfvbn.1cwfblk8nesfxN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
<[email protected]> writes
>> The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
>> Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
>
>Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
>break the bank, will it?

I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing', my dad has a box
and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
and subject to the vagaries of the weather.

I agree it could be the fault of his box, tele, aerial, cables etc., but
it isn't proximity to the transmitter as anyone who knows Kirkheaton
will understand.

I do know that a proportion of my licence fee goes to providing BBC
Freeview channels I can't receive unless I spend even more money on a
box, even if they are 'cheap as chips'.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange
'46 M Y++ L+ U KQ+ c B+ P99S P00S p+ Sh++ S(BAR) R(HD5)

 

[Mike Swift]

In article <1gcfvbn.1cwfblk8nesfxN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
<[email protected]> writes
>> The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
>> Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
>
>Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
>break the bank, will it?

I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing', my dad has a box
and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
and subject to the vagaries of the weather.

I agree it could be the fault of his box, tele, aerial, cables etc., but
it isn't proximity to the transmitter as anyone who knows Kirkheaton
will understand.

I do know that a proportion of my licence fee goes to providing BBC
Freeview channels I can't receive unless I spend even more money on a
box, even if they are 'cheap as chips'.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange
'46 M Y++ L+ U KQ+ c B+ P99S P00S p+ Sh++ S(BAR) R(HD5)

 

[fred]

On Sunday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "Mike Swift" wrote:

> I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing', my dad has a box
> and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
> and subject to the vagaries of the weather.

Yes but the sooner we are all getting crap programs and crap pictures
on digital the sooner the government can auction off the analogue
frequencies to the mobile phone companies, put it with what they make
closing hospitals and finance another war in the Middle East.

--
ô
õçîd

 

[Dave Fawthrop]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:15:05 +0100, Mike Swift <[email protected]>
wrote:

| In article <1gcfvbn.1cwfblk8nesfxN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
| <[email protected]> writes
| >> The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
| >> Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
| >
| >Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
| >break the bank, will it?
|
| I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing',

It gives BBC News24 and that is a good enough thing for me. <sad>

| my dad has a box
| and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
| and subject to the vagaries of the weather.
| I agree it could be the fault of his box, tele, aerial, cables etc.,


Sounds as if the ?outside? aerial needs a tap into the right position.

| but
| it isn't proximity to the transmitter as anyone who knows Kirkheaton
| will understand.

Do you have to point it upwards to look at the transmitter aerial?

Dave F

 

[fred]

On Sunday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "Mike Swift" wrote:

> I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing', my dad has a box
> and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
> and subject to the vagaries of the weather.

Yes but the sooner we are all getting crap programs and crap pictures
on digital the sooner the government can auction off the analogue
frequencies to the mobile phone companies, put it with what they make
closing hospitals and finance another war in the Middle East.

--
ô
õçîd

 

[Dave Fawthrop]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:15:05 +0100, Mike Swift <[email protected]>
wrote:

| In article <1gcfvbn.1cwfblk8nesfxN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
| <[email protected]> writes
| >> The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
| >> Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
| >
| >Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
| >break the bank, will it?
|
| I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing',

It gives BBC News24 and that is a good enough thing for me. <sad>

| my dad has a box
| and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
| and subject to the vagaries of the weather.
| I agree it could be the fault of his box, tele, aerial, cables etc.,


Sounds as if the ?outside? aerial needs a tap into the right position.

| but
| it isn't proximity to the transmitter as anyone who knows Kirkheaton
| will understand.

Do you have to point it upwards to look at the transmitter aerial?

Dave F

 

[fred]

On Sunday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "Mike Swift" wrote:

> I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing', my dad has a box
> and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
> and subject to the vagaries of the weather.

Yes but the sooner we are all getting crap programs and crap pictures
on digital the sooner the government can auction off the analogue
frequencies to the mobile phone companies, put it with what they make
closing hospitals and finance another war in the Middle East.

--
ô
õçîd

 

[Dave Fawthrop]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:15:05 +0100, Mike Swift <[email protected]>
wrote:

| In article <1gcfvbn.1cwfblk8nesfxN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
| <[email protected]> writes
| >> The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
| >> Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
| >
| >Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
| >break the bank, will it?
|
| I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing',

It gives BBC News24 and that is a good enough thing for me. <sad>

| my dad has a box
| and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
| and subject to the vagaries of the weather.
| I agree it could be the fault of his box, tele, aerial, cables etc.,


Sounds as if the ?outside? aerial needs a tap into the right position.

| but
| it isn't proximity to the transmitter as anyone who knows Kirkheaton
| will understand.

Do you have to point it upwards to look at the transmitter aerial?

Dave F

 

[fred]

On Sunday, in article <[email protected]>
[email protected] "Mike Swift" wrote:

> I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing', my dad has a box
> and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
> and subject to the vagaries of the weather.

Yes but the sooner we are all getting crap programs and crap pictures
on digital the sooner the government can auction off the analogue
frequencies to the mobile phone companies, put it with what they make
closing hospitals and finance another war in the Middle East.

--
ô
õçîd

 

[Dave Fawthrop]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 21:15:05 +0100, Mike Swift <[email protected]>
wrote:

| In article <1gcfvbn.1cwfblk8nesfxN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth
| <[email protected]> writes
| >> The latest rumour is that analogue switch off will be 2007. By then
| >> Freeview boxes will be cheap as chips,
| >
| >Err Freeview boxes already are cheap as chips. £39 a box will hardly
| >break the bank, will it?
|
| I'm yet to be convinced that digital is 'a good thing',

It gives BBC News24 and that is a good enough thing for me. <sad>

| my dad has a box
| and the picture can be a bit flakey at times, pixelating now and again
| and subject to the vagaries of the weather.
| I agree it could be the fault of his box, tele, aerial, cables etc.,


Sounds as if the ?outside? aerial needs a tap into the right position.

| but
| it isn't proximity to the transmitter as anyone who knows Kirkheaton
| will understand.

Do you have to point it upwards to look at the transmitter aerial?

Dave F