How is this VOD possible???

has anyone ever heard seen or had a blacklisted box ?? {dont confuse blacklisted in the e/menu with the box being knocked off the system by the cc}--"re-program the card and the box will be ok again


all the years in this game ive never known a single box to get killed or blacklisted by the cc {cards yes, "in there hundreds possibly thousands}

the cc's dont appear to blacklist ird's and bk's {otherwise the oldest public
known ird and bk would have been blacklisted years ago {namely the ird+bk in the testsim hexs}



Have pondered this myself so theres no point in really cutting talkback.
 
has anyone ever heard seen or had a blacklisted box ?? {dont confuse blacklisted in the e/menu with the box being knocked off the system by the cc}--"re-program the card and the box will be ok again


all the years in this game ive never known a single box to get killed or blacklisted by the cc {cards yes, "in there hundreds possibly thousands}

the cc's dont appear to blacklist ird's and bk's {otherwise the oldest public
known ird and bk would have been blacklisted years ago {namely the ird+bk in the testsim hexs}


hmm i got a sammy here

that says blacklisted

tried it with different cards fun, mosc, tit 2

changed ird forwards and backwards .etc

still same

and when i recievied it was unmodded
 
hmm i got a sammy here

that says blacklisted

tried it with different cards fun, mosc, tit 2

changed ird forwards and backwards .etc

still same

and when i recievied it was unmodded

that has to be a problem with the box m8, {its not because the ccs have kicked it off the system}

its never been the case were the cc's blacklist individual boxs, {its always been either a hardware fault or corruption of the box}
 
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that has to be a problem with the box m8, {its not because the ccs have kicked it off the system}

hmm i dont understand m8

with out card it dont say nothing about being black listed

but in the ppv status or interactive status it says blacklisted

i shorted battery same thing

any ideas then??
 
hmm i dont understand m8

with out card it dont say nothing about being black listed

but in the ppv status or interactive status it says blacklisted

i shorted battery same thing

any ideas then??


without actualy seeing the box in front of me " i can't realy say m8", {its either a hardware fault or you havn't programed a card properly for it}

there has to be a problem with the card reader circut , assumeing your card programing is pretty good


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has anyone ever heard seen or had a blacklisted box ?? {dont confuse blacklisted in the e/menu with the box being knocked off the system by the cc}--"re-program the card and the box will be ok again


all the years in this game ive never known a single box to get killed or blacklisted by the cc {cards yes, "in there hundreds possibly thousands}

the cc's dont appear to blacklist ird's and bk's {otherwise the oldest public
known ird and bk would have been blacklisted years ago {namely the ird+bk in the testsim hexs}

Agreed, it doesn't happen !

There has never been any observed system messages on the network which disable boxes. The only thing ever disabled is the card

VOD is a different kettle of fish though. For vod to operate properly the cc's must of set up an account which must have a matching MAC number. They can easily stop a box from aquiring vod services simply by deleting its entry in the vod service database.
 
The VOD works without a card due to my mate has VOD with tb cut and is waiting on his trader to do his card, which the trader has got. and he watchs movies every night from VOD

Just a quick question is your mate actually choosing the film from the vod menu to start when he wants it to or is he watching a signal that someone else has started.
 
Agreed, it doesn't happen !

There has never been any observed system messages on the network which disable boxes. The only thing ever disabled is the card

VOD is a different kettle of fish though. For vod to operate properly the cc's must of set up an account which must have a matching MAC number. They can easily stop a box from aquiring vod services simply by deleting its entry in the vod service database.

so you are saying that you need a valid MAC address corrisponding to a valid ACCOUNT to receive VOD, have i undersyood you correctly???

if so then why does this box work? cause like i say its years old and can in no way be valid on there system. so why does it still do VOD if the MAC and ACCOUNT are not valid
 
Ive Had One Mosc And 2 Funcards That Have Come Up As Blacklisted.. And Even When You Erase And Re-write The Funcard It Still Comes Up As Blacklisted....but Write A New Card., And It Works...as A Lot Of Boxes Have Never Had Tb Cut And Have Been On For Years Even With Ppv Working.. And The Few Boxes I Have Reconnected Tb To Get Normal Movies Have All Given Me Filmflex But Not All Have Given The Movies ??????
 
assumeing the cc's can blacklist ird's and bk's, {then you would have to assume, "any ird or bk not in there database will be blacklisted, ie: a unique ird to bk"}

its simple enough to create a completly diffrent ird to bk between 2 1000 models running on the same software {theres also a good chance it might be unique}--"yet the box and card will still work"


there's also a good chance youve created a unique mac at the same time {yet you wont get vod/fflex because its not in there database}--this is the diffrence between blacklisted on the 2 systems
 
But, Does The Ird And Bk From Each Box Actualy Get Sent On The Return Path When You Go On Vod??? And Is The Mac From The Box Linked To The Ird???as The Boxes Were Old Subbed Boxes Who's Accounts Were Cancelled Or Closed Why Would You Still Be Able To Get Vod?? Secondly Why Can You Virtualy Always Get Vod When Tb Connected But Very Rarely Get The Pin Menu On The Movie Channels??is It Not A Case That The Access To A Particular Box For Movies Has Already Been Removed (as In Its No Longer A Subbed Box) But They Have No Way Of Stopping The Vod Signal If The Box And Card Is Set To Accept It???( I Think Thats What I Mean Lol)
 
so you are saying that you need a valid MAC address corrisponding to a valid ACCOUNT to receive VOD, have i undersyood you correctly???

if so then why does this box work? cause like i say its years old and can in no way be valid on there system. so why does it still do VOD if the MAC and ACCOUNT are not valid

the only people that can tell you that are the cc m8, {who know's, "it might get knocked off the system next week next month next year}

considering these cc's are idiots, {it may never go off}

bad housekeeping and the lack of money are the reason why this hack is still running
 
But, Does The Ird And Bk From Each Box Actualy Get Sent On The Return Path When You Go On Vod??? And Is The Mac From The Box Linked To The Ird???as The Boxes Were Old Subbed Boxes Who's Accounts Were Cancelled Or Closed Why Would You Still Be Able To Get Vod?? Secondly Why Can You Virtualy Always Get Vod When Tb Connected But Very Rarely Get The Pin Menu On The Movie Channels??is It Not A Case That The Access To A Particular Box For Movies Has Already Been Removed (as In Its No Longer A Subbed Box) But They Have No Way Of Stopping The Vod Signal If The Box And Card Is Set To Accept It???( I Think Thats What I Mean Lol)

the card plays no part in getting vod m8,{you can access vod without any card in the box}

verification for vod comes from either the nvram or the flash
 
So You Don't Need Any Credit On A Card To Get Vod??? Ive Never Tried It Without A Card In....so If It Comes From The Nvram ..??? I Flashed A 2100 And Got The Movies, But No Vod (as Tb Was Cut) When I Re-enabled Tb I Got Vod But Lost The Option For Pin On The Movie Channels ..any Idea Why??? Even If I Disable The Tb I Still Cant Get Movie Pin Unless I Reflash The Box By Jtag.....tried This A Few Times .
 
So You Don't Need Any Credit On A Card To Get Vod??? Ive Never Tried It Without A Card In....so If It Comes From The Nvram ..??? I Flashed A 2100 And Got The Movies, But No Vod (as Tb Was Cut) When I Re-enabled Tb I Got Vod But Lost The Option For Pin On The Movie Channels ..any Idea Why??? Even If I Disable The Tb I Still Cant Get Movie Pin Unless I Reflash The Box By Jtag.....tried This A Few Times .

i would'nt know m8, never had a sammy to play with myself

i might be able to to help you out if i could compare an s19 file from your sammy before you jtag the pin macro, and an a s19 file "after" you jtag the pin macro

maybe the macro you need should be from a vod/ pin enabled box, {the macro's doing the rounds on the forums are from pin enabled boxs only as far as i can see}

it seems obvious you need tb connected no matter what you do, {otherwise you wont get vod}
 
Just a quick question is your mate actually choosing the film from the vod menu to start when he wants it to or is he watching a signal that someone else has started.

He choose the movies himself i tried it but only works with tb connected when i disconnect it goes off on my own box
 
hmm i got a sammy here

that says blacklisted

tried it with different cards fun, mosc, tit 2

changed ird forwards and backwards .etc

still same

and when i recievied it was unmodded

what i have noticed that boxes from different areas as c/w or t/w that are intended to be used in pure will change its bk but not ird. coz i've had a box from c/w and go the key but after connecting to the stream it changed the bk so may be worth selling on.lol
 
i would'nt know m8, never had a sammy to play with myself

i might be able to to help you out if i could compare an s19 file from your sammy before you jtag the pin macro, and an a s19 file "after" you jtag the pin macro

maybe the macro you need should be from a vod/ pin enabled box, {the macro's doing the rounds on the forums are from pin enabled boxs only as far as i can see}

it seems obvious you need tb connected no matter what you do, {otherwise you wont get vod}

I'LL SEE IF I CAN COME UP WITH THE S19 FILES M8 IF YOU'RE WILLING TO HAVE A LOOK...
I TRIED THE 2100 MACRO OF THE FORUM, WHICH GAVE ME MOVIE PIN ,SO LONG AS TB WASN'T CONNECTED. THE MINUTE YOU RECONNECT TB YOU LOOSE THE OPTION FOR PIN ON THE MOVIES, IF YOU THEN DISABLE THE TB YOU STILL CAN'T GET THE PIN OPTION ON MOVIES UNLESS YOU REFLASH THE BOX...NOW THE BOX DOESN'T TAKE ANOTHER UPDATE AFTER THE INITIAL ONE...
SO I''L TRY GET THE S19 FILE BEFOR ITS FLASHED, ONCE ITS FLASHED WITH MOVIES, THEN ANOTHER WHEN TB HAS BEEN ENABLED AND YOU LOOSE THE MOVIES...
 
so you are saying that you need a valid MAC address corrisponding to a valid ACCOUNT to receive VOD, have i undersyood you correctly???

if so then why does this box work? cause like i say its years old and can in no way be valid on there system. so why does it still do VOD if the MAC and ACCOUNT are not valid

As Benny suggests, the fact that your box still works is purely down to bad housekeeping on the cc's part. It seems that once they've registered a box they rarely remove that box from their database.

It wouldn't suprise me if they only actually have one database that feeds all of their systems and that the bean counters never allow a box to "go missing" as it screws their accounting up !
 
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