anyone able to use TM ONLINE?

[slyboxhd]

hello
ALL

has anyone been able to use TM ONLINE these days?
i cant get it to work with 128 or leatest patch?
thanks in advance for any help

 

[Abu Baniaz]

Have you eliminated network issues? Seem to recall you had a similar issue some time ago. Perhaps disable wifi on a laptop and use the network cable that the receiver was using?

 

[holmroad]

My new TM5402HD M2 I set up yesterday on patch 109P also fails to work in TM Online - Youtube gives a few 'selected' items, but bit disappointed no 'search' option!
My other main problem is that for instance on both 13E and 28E previously fine channels no longer have a signal, e.g. some Sly Italia movies, Prima Fila and Calcio - plus Super Tennis no longer show a signal - all despite blind scanning them again just to make sure!
BT Sport HD 1 & 2 plus Setanta on 28E same thing!
I currently have the black inverto LNB fitted, so will try my trusty old white Sharpe one later, just in case!:Cry:

 

[digi247]

My new TM5402HD M2 I set up yesterday on patch 109P also fails to work in TM Online - Youtube gives a few 'selected' items, but bit disappointed no 'search' option!
My other main problem is that for instance on both 13E and 28E previously fine channels no longer have a signal, e.g. some Sly Italia movies, Prima Fila and Calcio - plus Super Tennis no longer show a signal - all despite blind scanning them again just to make sure!
BT Sport HD 1 & 2 plus Setanta on 28E same thing!
I currently have the black inverto LNB fitted, so will try my trusty old white Sharpe one later, just in case!:Cry:

I would say its the Black Ultra had a few now that have had so called issues with certain frequency bands, If you want to dismiss the LNB theory then try Patch 101p which is very stable and exhibits no problems

 

[holmroad]

I would say its the Black Ultra had a few now that have had so called issues with certain frequency bands, If you want to dismiss the LNB theory then try Patch 101p which is very stable and exhibits no problems

Thanks for your comments mate, I have tried the white Sharpe LNB and the zero signals on both 13E and 28E obtained with black inverto are now at over 90% with this Sharpe LNB, yet Bulsat 39E was 93% on 39E with black inverto, but down to 73% with Sharpe - so it does seem that a 'compromise is in order here and that I will maybe leave my Sharpe LNB on until the NEXT patch! lol!!
As for trying patch 101P, will probably leave it for a while too!
Regards.:drink:

 

[MartyMacfly]

My new TM5402HD M2 I set up yesterday on patch 109P also fails to work in TM Online - Youtube gives a few 'selected' items, but bit disappointed no 'search' option!
My other main problem is that for instance on both 13E and 28E previously fine channels no longer have a signal, e.g. some Sly Italia movies, Prima Fila and Calcio - plus Super Tennis no longer show a signal - all despite blind scanning them again just to make sure!
BT Sport HD 1 & 2 plus Setanta on 28E same thing!
I currently have the black inverto LNB fitted, so will try my trusty old white Sharpe one later, just in case!:Cry:

Hi. I have a tm5402 hd (not the M2 model thought) and do not have problems with any of the channels you mentioned. What I have noticed is that sometimes the receiver is getting the wrong symbols but this can be corrected with the advance search option.

 

[trevortron]

Thanks for your comments mate, I have tried the white Sharpe LNB and the zero signals on both 13E and 28E obtained with black inverto are now at over 90% with this Sharpe LNB, yet Bulsat 39E was 93% on 39E with black inverto, but down to 73% with Sharpe - so it does seem that a 'compromise is in order here and that I will maybe leave my Sharpe LNB on until the NEXT patch! lol!!
As for trying patch 101P, will probably leave it for a while too!
Regards.:drink:

Those old white Sharps took some beating, it was a sad day when they stopped making them. The black '8's were useless, I never got to try a 9. I've even seen some 'converted' to C120 flange for prime focus dishes! I've got some used but OK ones kicking about you can have for the cost of the postage if you want.

Out of interest, what frequency range(s) was the Inverto notching out? Was it similar on 13E & 28E?

 

[holmroad]

Those old white Sharps took some beating, it was a sad day when they stopped making them. The black '8's were useless, I never got to try a 9. I've even seen some 'converted' to C120 flange for prime focus dishes! I've got some used but OK ones kicking about you can have for the cost of the postage if you want.

Out of interest, what frequency range(s) was the Inverto notching out? Was it similar on 13E & 28E?

Hi mate, not sure what you mean by notching out, but white Sharpe seems to bring back all the popular satellite strengths on patch 109P, but maybe not the weaker ones like 7W (which is only reason I ever bought the black inverto in the first place as they were all saying that was THE one to go for to pull in JSC Sports 1-6HD with my 1.1M dish here in North Lincs - but it DIDNT!
I think that the signal with my new TM5402HD M2 is even WORSE than it was with my TM6900HD Super, that's with both Sharpe AND black inverto LNB's!

 

[Tiernan]

my cousin got the m2. The m2 is riddled with problems, missing channels,box freezing and def not worth the hassle. he cant get youtube or access tm online either, I told him, who cares, its a sat box, go on your pc for the other stuff. as long as the box performs the basic functions correctly (which it cant ! ) I cant see it being sorted anytime soon.nobody seems happy at all with m2's. the patches that are released are never properly tested which is stupid cos they just make more work for themselves by having to rewrite them. he sold it on gumtree for 110 quid and ordered the m1 from ebay. he is now a happy man.

 

[holmroad]

Well now I've got used to it, Youtube is fine - I'd missed the 'Options', including 'Search', so I was wrong and its fine guys!
TM Online doesnt work - and my only other concern was the loss of transponders between LNB's, which is ok now I'm back on my white Sharpe one!
I do belive/hope Phantom will bring out a new patch soon to remedy these remaining concerns!

 

[Zorch]

@holmroad

With regard to your missing/low signals on certain transponders/satellites when using your Inverto Black Ultra LNB with your new TM 5402 HD M2

Try this mate...

Go to the problem transponders in the 'Advanced Search' menu and temporarily replace the current Symbol Rate (S/R) with 46000 and see if you then get your signals back again...

I've just used this technique on a transponder that I have never managed to get a signal lock on before using my TM 5402 HD... however my TM 5400 SD receiver has no problems locking the signal and downloading the channel...

The result of adding the 46000 (S/R) to this transponder on my TM 5402 HD is amazing... I can now lock the transponder signal and download the channel... before I added the 46000 (S/R) all I got on this transponder with the 2600 (S/R) was red bars and the Signal Quality never went above 35%

Take a look (below) at the signal readings I'm getting now on this transponder... I'm sorry that I can't add any pictures to my posts at this time as my camera batteries are exhausted... and I cannot afford to buy any more...

Badr 4 at 26.0°E

12.666 H [2600] 3/4 DVB-S [QPSK] 3594 Kbps [FSS Beam]

Al-Quds TV (Lebanon) [VPID 0256/APID 258/PPID 0256] FTA

TM 5402 HD CI+ Super+
Signal Strength 93%
Signal Quality 65%

I hope this helps...

Best Wishes,
Zorch

 

[holmroad]

Thanks mate, may try it later, but only problem is I've now put back my white Sharpe LNB so will have to reinstall my black inverto - but it does sound feasible espec as I would then get back the best of both worlds signal-wise eh?
I only hope I can modify the s/r as you suggest - I remember we once tried something else like this using the Editor for getting rid of corruptions on my TM6900HD Super Channel List some time ago?
(Only difference here is I suppose, that this is a DIRECT stb mod rather than having to go into the channel list!!)

 

[Zorch]

@holmroad

I only hope I can modify the s/r as you suggest - I remember we once tried something else like this using the Editor for getting rid of corruptions on my TM6900HD Super Channel List some time ago?
(Only difference here is I suppose, that this is a DIRECT stb mod rather than having to go into the channel list!!)

No mate... have a read of this...

46000 is the default Symbol Rate (S/R) used by Technomate receivers... this (S/R) can only be added/assigned to a transponder permanently with the aid of an Editor program... Technomate receivers are unable to store the 46000 (S/R) in the Advanced Search menu... however you can temporarily assign (S/R) 46000 to any transponder in the Advanced Search menu when you want to check to see if a signal is present on any given transponder frequency... adding/assigning this (S/R) to transponders in the Editor program is especially useful when you don't know the specific (S/R) that a transponder is using... therefore when the 46000 symbol Rate is added/assigned to ANY transponder/frequency it will then act as the correct (S/R) currently being used by the transponder/frequency in question... you can then download any channels associated with the transponder/frequency...

Best Wishes,
Zorch

 

[holmroad]

Cheers mate, I THINK I uinderstand all that - but only hope that once this 'temporary' setting goes off again that the successful scans dont revert to becoming unsuccessful and the signal again is lost - e.g. on BT Sport HD 1 & 2, MUTV, Setanta?

 

[holmroad]

@Zorch:-

Just thought mate, do you realise that MY issue here seems NOT to be with the actual scan, but that channels which successfully scanned on previously and are on previous channel list, do not show a signal on the TM5402HD M2 patch 109P with black inverto LNB even thjough they are ALREADY listed there from the previous TM6900HD Super list?
So when I take off the black LNB and put on the white Sharpe, the previously scanned in channels (e.g. BT Sport HD ARE now showing a signal - but thats all WITHOUT any rescanning or anything!
So I felt that its the way the software is handling different spec LNB's which is the problem here, rather the the s/r one you have explained?
Maybe I'm wrong mate?

 

[trevortron]

Hi mate, not sure what you mean by notching out, but white Sharpe seems to bring back all the popular satellite strengths on patch 109P, but maybe not the weaker ones like 7W (which is only reason I ever bought the black inverto in the first place as they were all saying that was THE one to go for to pull in JSC Sports 1-6HD with my 1.1M dish here in North Lincs - but it DIDNT!
I think that the signal with my new TM5402HD M2 is even WORSE than it was with my TM6900HD Super, that's with both Sharpe AND black inverto LNB's!

By 'notching out', I meant.. is there a specific band of frequencies that are not being received when you are using the Inverto? i.e is it the same frequencies on 13E and 28E that are affected? Another consideration is that the Inverto Ultra has unusually high gain, it may be swamping the tuner with excessive signal. Do you have an attenuator you could try?

 

[holmroad]

By 'notching out', I meant.. is there a specific band of frequencies that are not being received when you are using the Inverto? i.e is it the same frequencies on 13E and 28E that are affected? Another consideration is that the Inverto Ultra has unusually high gain, it may be swamping the tuner with excessive signal. Do you have an attenuator you could try?

I see what you mean mate, but don't think I can check what you suggest!

 

[holmroad]

@Zorch:-

Went into Advanced Search option (as I frequently already do! lol!!)
Edited a transponder s/r from say 27500 to 46000, signal appeared below at 97% (plus good quality reading 87+%)
Pressed red Search button
Was told Invalid Symbol Rate - unable to continue without it reverting back to 27500!

So sorry mate but still a bit confused here - still think the software has probs with different LNB's as suggested above!

 

[digi247]

I found that the Twin Black Ultra performs better than the single, It does for me anyway i saw a test from one of the Guy's on another forum and it confirmed that performance in the upper band was better than the single by around 2db where as the Single is suppose to perform better in the lower band.

10.729V 11.244H 12.728V
-----------------------------------
TWIN 14.4dB 12.5dB 13.5dB
TWIN* 14.1dB 12.6dB 13.7dB
SINGLE 14.7dB 12.5dB 10.2dB
SINGLE 14.4dB 12.3dB 9.8dB
SINGLE 14.7dB 12.5dB 9.5dB

 

[holmroad]

I found that the Twin Black Ultra performs better than the single, It does for me anyway i saw a test from one of the Guy's on another forum and it confirmed that performance in the upper band was better than the single by around 2db where as the Single is suppose to perform better in the lower band.

Cheers mate, that's very interesting too - think mine must have had probs with one of those bands then eh - mine was single black inverto - yet as I say the white Sharpe does FAR better by bringing in thins the black inverto SINGLE didn't manage!
The down side of this is that certainly SOME channels pulled in by the black inverto were actually much stronger, but its really no good if others aren't there at all?
The Sharpe seems deffo to pull em ALL in, albeit some lower, some higher signal strength/quality!
So at moment its my white Sharo
pe for ME - until maybe Phantom manages to bring out new software to correct this mega problem!