Motorists to pay tolls for new roads under Tory plans

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Motorists would have to pay tolls to drive on newly-built roads under plans being drawn up by the Conservatives to cut public spending.

The road tolls are among a range of new taxes which David Cameron is now being forced to consider as public borrowing is forecast to rise to more than £1 trillion.

Mr Cameron said that he is looking at introducing road tolls and that such schemes have proved a "great success". However, the scheme is likely to prove unpopular with motorists who already pay some of the highest rates of fuel duty in the world, at 54p per litre plus VAT.

The Tory leader said that he "cannot rule out tax increases" if he wins the next general election. The Conservatives are already drawing up plans to cut public spending and Mr Cameron described the challenge of repairing the country's finances as "daunting".

He also indicated that it may be several years before he is able to introduce the flagship policy to cut inheritance tax. It will also not be a priority to scrap the new 50p higher rate of income tax proposed by Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling.

In an interview with the BBC's Andrew Marr show, Mr Cameron warned that helping Britain recover from the economic downturn was "going to be a national endeavour." He said everyone would have to share the burden of a programme of "austerity".

After ruling out introducing new charges for NHS services, he said: "We've said we're happy to look at road tolls. I don't think that the eye in the sky big government scheme they [Labour] were planning was going to work, but separate road tolls...

"You know if you look at the one road toll that has been built - the Birmingham Relief Road - great success, a Conservative idea."

The Conservatives believe that the public may support road tolls for new roads if they reduce congestion. The M6 toll, or Birmingham North relief road, was first proposed by the Conservatives in the 1980s but only opened in 2003. It was forecast to carry about 74,000 vehicles a day but has failed to meet expectations.

The number of vehicles using the road has actually fallen since it opened and only about 39,000 vehicles a day used the road in 2008. The M6 and other local roads have not seen a reduction in congestion as had been hoped.

Much of the criticism has focused on the failure of the Government to limit tolls. Cars are charged up to £4.70 for the 27-mile journey, while lorries are charged £9. Many hauliers decided against using the road because of the high tolls.

Mr Cameron is likely to face public opposition to any widespread plan for road tolls. Labour was recently forced to abandon a plan to introduce pay-as-you drive road-pricing. More than 1.8 million people signed a Downing Street petition against the scheme.

Motoring organisations said that the Conservatives were making a "mistake". They are concerned that the tolls may be charged to drive on certain lanes if motorways or other roads were widened.

"Politically, the Tories would probably be making a mistake to be talking about tolls at this stage," said Edmund King, the president of the AA. "All the evidence suggests the public aren't ready for it and don't trust politicians to deliver a fair system."

The Conservatives are currently scrutinising how to reduce Britain's high levels of debt, which is expected to total more than £1 trillion over the next five years, according to Treasury forecasts. Sir John Major, the former Prime Minister, recently warned that income tax would have to rise by five pence in the pound and Vat would have to increase to 20 per cent to maintain current spending plans.

When asked about Sir John's comments, Mr Cameron said yesterday: "On tax…we have tried to behave very responsibly. We've been very clear we can't promise tax reductions, we can't rule out tax increases. We've never done that because we genuinely believe - and it goes very, very deep - that you've got, as a country, to live within your means."

The Conservative leader also hinted that wealthier Britons may face higher taxes under a future Tory government.

"I think in saying to the country that we need to reduce public spending, we need to get the budget balance under control, we've got to be able to demonstrate to people that this is fair and seen to be fair and that everyone is putting their shoulder to the wheel and sharing in the difficult decisions," he said. "And that means the wealthy have to pay their fair share.

"You know this is going to be a really big national endeavour and you've got to try and take the whole country with you. And that starts with honesty and being frank about it, explaining how you do it."

The Prime Minister has accused Mr Cameron of failing to disclose how the Conservatives will cut public spending without reducing the quality of public services.

The Conservative leader said yesterday that if elected he would show a lead by "having fewer ministers". "We're going to share in these difficult decisions and in this pain, but then the whole country has got to take part in this," he said.

He also indicated that major defence projects to build new aircraft carriers and the Eurofighter may be reviewed.

In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, the Marquess of Salisbury, the former Conservative leader of the Lords, urges Mr Cameron to show more courage in identifying spending cuts. "I have not heard a lot of clarity from him," the peer said. "It's like pulling teeth."

Mr Cameron is also under growing pressure from influential backbenchers to pledge to make more sweeping cuts.

David Davis, the former shadow Home Secretary who challenged Mr Cameron for the Conservative leadership, said yesterday: "The Conservatives have to challenge everything. Is this policy or programme necessary?

"In doing this, the Conservatives must understand there are no sacred cows. Whole programmes, such as the Trident upgrade, can and should go. Similarly, middle-class welfare, such as child benefits and winter fuel payments for the well-off should be cut."

Mr Brown has refused to explicitly discuss spending cuts. However, Alistair Darling, the Chancellor, said yesterday that whichever party won the next election would have to do "hard things" as the economy recovers.

"I do think that people know that given what we are going through just now, there will have to be difficult choices, priorities will have to be set, and both political parties are going to have to do that," he said.

He added: "Apart from anything else, the next election could see a government elected until 2015. It will need mandate for the hard things it's got to do as well as the things it wants to do to improve the country."

The Conservatives are working on plans to launch a new fund which would provide financing for smaller businesses.

A group of entrepreneurs and financiers are working with the Conservatives to establish the new fund – modelled on similar schemes in America and Hong Kong. The fund could help fund new "start-up" businesses and lend money to smaller firms,

Mark Prisk, the shadow minister for small business, said: "We are looking at what would be the best sort of institution to help funding for small businesses."





By Robert Winnett, Deputy Political Editor
Motorists to pay tolls for new roads under Tory plans - Telegraph
 
i only read the first biot of this, but does that mean theyll scrap 'road tax' ?
 
Great, thanks labour..

No matter what party gets in theyre going to be called for raising taxes but this all comes back to labour... cukin arse bandits
 
i only read the first biot of this, but does that mean theyll scrap 'road tax' ?

Nope, it means you will still pay road tax but they will extend lanes on a motorway that you pay a premium to use.
It may also include building bypasses to ease congestion but they will be private and once again you pay a premium.
Basically its the government bleeding more cash from the over taxed motorist and charging more to bring the motorway network to a standard that it should be at already.

It's another classic example of "rip off Britain".

I am really concerned that the Torie scum will get back into power at the next election.
Some DW members will be too young to remember the awful 80s under Thatcher, if you think its bad now, wait till these clowns get back in..
 
Road tax going up all the time, fuel going up all the time, and now we will have
to pay to drive on potholed roads as well. !!!!!! :Angryfire
 
Nope, it means you will still pay road tax but they will extend lanes on a motorway that you pay a premium to use.
It may also include building bypasses to ease congestion but they will be private and once again you pay a premium.
Basically its the government bleeding more cash from the over taxed motorist and charging more to bring the motorway network to a standard that it should be at already.

It's another classic example of "rip off Britain".

I am really concerned that the Torie scum will get back into power at the next election.
Some DW members will be too young to remember the awful 80s under Thatcher, if you think its bad now, wait till these clowns get back in..

you must be jokeing m8 i think its worse now, this new labour gov are more tory than the tories {im sick to death of thier inept crackpot schemes that never work or come unstuck and waste millions}

yes thatcher broke the unions, but what union these days has got any clout under labour.......... firms these days could sack the whole workforce rather than give them a payrise if they wanted to........this

im no tory but i will say 1 thing about maggie.....she stuck up for us in europe

poll tax would have been fuckall compared to the way were getting ripped of now m8


AT THE SAME TIME,"WHO THE **** DO YOU VOTE FOR ANYWAY.....there all a bunch of lieing schemeing wankers anyway
 
you must be jokeing m8 i think its worse now, this new labour gov are more tory than the tories {im sick to death of thier inept crackpot schemes that never work or come unstuck and waste millions}

yes thatcher broke the unions, but what union these days has got any clout under labour.......... firms these days could sack the whole workforce rather than give them a payrise if they wanted to........this

im no tory but i will say 1 thing about maggie.....she stuck up for us in europe

poll tax would have been fuckall compared to the way were getting ripped of now m8


AT THE SAME TIME,"WHO THE **** DO YOU VOTE FOR ANYWAY.....there all a bunch of lieing schemeing wankers anyway

I vote for Lib Dems mate as i agree with most of what you say.
I just think Labour are a lesser evil than the Tories and lets face it, at the moment they are the only 2 that can get into power.

I just remember growing up in the 80s and it was a lot grimmer than it is today.
 
I vote for Lib Dems mate as i agree with most of what you say.
I just think Labour are a lesser evil than the Tories and lets face it, at the moment they are the only 2 that can get into power.

I just remember growing up in the 80s and it was a lot grimmer than it is today.


I just remember growing up in the 80s and it was a lot grimmer than it is today

hahaha, it will get a lot grimmer in the near future under labour m8

health service is a joke......what are the odds {compared to the 80s}of comeing out of hospital alive these days m8

what are the odds of comeing out of the armed forces alive these days


like i said m8, i think its a lot worse today
 
I just remember growing up in the 80s and it was a lot grimmer than it is today

hahaha, it will get a lot grimmer in the near future under labour m8

health service is a joke......what are the odds {compared to the 80s}of comeing out of hospital alive these days m8

what are the odds of comeing out of the armed forces alive these days


like i said m8, i think its a lot worse today

The health service was one step from going private under Tory rule.

There was a war called the Falklands so the odds of coming out alive were just as bad as today.
Most of the heavy industry in Scotland went right down the crapper.
 
The health service was one step from going private under Tory rule.

There was a war called the Falklands so the odds of coming out alive were just as bad as today.
Most of the heavy industry in Scotland went right down the crapper.


you dont fully get my meaning m8, {how many cases of the superbug deaths did you hear about in the 80s}.......i thought the health service was run a lot better than it is today............private has got nothing to do with it m8.......................if you go in for a simple operation,"atleast you want to come out alive

i thought the falklands solders where fairly well equipt at the time {never heard of any solders haveing to buy there own flak jackets just to stay alive like they did in iraq}


preventable deaths caused by this gov and its policies
 
you dont fully get my meaning m8, {how many cases of the superbug deaths did you hear about in the 80s}.......i thought the health service was run a lot better than it is today............private has got nothing to do with it m8.......................if you go in for a simple operation,"atleast you want to come out alive

i thought the falklands solders where fairly well equipt at the time {never heard of any solders haveing to buy there own flak jackets just to stay alive like they did in iraq}


preventable deaths caused by this gov and its policies

There were not that many cases of mrsa in the 80s but the bug has been around since 1961 so an outbreak could happen at any time as it did in the mid 90s.
ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methicillin-resistant_Staphylococcus_aureus

Private health care has a lot to do with it, if the NHS went into private hands under the Tories policies then you simply would not have the NHS.
So if you don't have an insurance policy then you have no healthcare.

My dad was involved in the Falklands war and he assures me that they were not properly equipped, infact quite the opposite, they were poorly equipped.

Anyway i think we will all find out soon enough as it looks like the Tories will get in at the next election anyway and we will see how bad it gets..
 
It's a great idea and one that I welcome. Big open empty roads for those that don't mind paying a few quid extra to miss out on traffic, what's not to like?
 
It's a great idea and one that I welcome. Big open empty roads for those that don't mind paying a few quid extra to miss out on traffic, what's not to like?

PMSL
I can't answer your point Munkey as i can't stop laughing at your avatar.
Quality mate.lol
 
so what if tory's do charge for fast lanes in the future the socialists are doing the same thing now "Birmingham m6 relief road" costs a fortune i think its £4.50 now for a car......

don't matter how you argue it hoppy they are all a bunch of thieving toerags as proven with the latest ex's scandal.

i came out of my apprenticeship in 1980 and went on a the full wage and worked up the company with promotions and moving jobs etc, looking back as a single man with cash in my pocket the 80's were a good time. (for me)
 
so what if tory's do charge for fast lanes in the future the socialists are doing the same thing now "Birmingham m6 relief road" costs a fortune i think its £4.50 now for a car......

don't matter how you argue it hoppy they are all a bunch of thieving toerags as proven with the latest ex's scandal.

i came out of my apprenticeship in 1980 and went on a the full wage and worked up the company with promotions and moving jobs etc, looking back as a single man with cash in my pocket the 80's were a good time. (for me)

Tbh Hatab i have been thinking about it and tbh i am sort of coming round to everyone's points.
I agree they are all thieving bams.

It was still grim in the eighties though fella.
Well it was where i come from..lol
 
That the start of it you will soon be paying on all roads
 
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