Manual calculations for Dummies

[MC_1]

Method based upon nix9's 'understanding the RH/XV system'

I know methods have been posted many times over (this one already by hamba) but here is my take on it:

XV Tues 28th (thanks to Rat)

(ref.23) = 323
(ref.24) = 8262
(ref.25) = 1234
(ref.26) = 7978

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Now ref.23 (look above at 23) dictates the methods used to decode the code. It is made up of what can be seen as three separte operations (indicated by the 323 part - 323 made up of three digits so therefore...three separate operations) that inturn make the final code.

So, as I was saying about operations to be performed

when you see a 3 in ref.23 it means:
a Right shift method will be carried out on the other ref. later.

when you see a 2 in ref.23 it means:
simply that one of the ref. numbers will be switched around in a calculated mannor (you will see later)

So in WORDS, ref.23 will mearly look like this -
(ref.23) = A right shift method;A switch-around method;A right shift method
which is the equivelent of -
(ref.23) = ______ 3 ________________ 2 _______________ 3

You and I will always have to look back at this number to see what kind of operation has to be done to the next line of ref. numbers so that we can stride towards that final code. If your confused initialy, try to follow the steps outloud and grasp how my train of thought worked.

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So down to the real calculating stuff then.

We want to work through each ref. numbers to get a result out of them and first in line is ref.24
(Remember how I was saying about how ref.23 was made up of three seperate operations? [look up if the answers no] well the first of them was a Right sift method indicated by a 3)

Take the numbers from ref.24 and put them into a neatly drawn table headed by the numbers 0123456789 like below.

__0123456789 (these numbers are always needed, because we will shift them right)
-------------------
8 -
2 -
6 -
2 -

I will explain how to right shift these codes step by step (and we're right shifting because the first number of ref.23 was a 3)

Step 1

__0123456789
-------------------
8 - _______ 01
2 -
6 -
2 -

(look at the 8 on the far left, put your finger on the 8 in the headed columb, now thats where you write 0 and next to it 1, we have shifted the 0123456789 eight places right - right shift)

Step 2

___0123456789
--------------------
8 - 2345678901 (fill in the rest of the numbers like so.)
2 -
6 -
2 -

Step 3

___0123456789
--------------------
8 - 2345678901
2 - 8901234567 (fill in the rest like I shown you in step 1. Also note the orientation of
6 - 4567890123 the lime green numbers to their headings. Spot a pattern?)
2 - 8901234567

This is the first part done, we will come back to this

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The next in line to be worked upon is ref.25 and from ref.23 we are going to use that number 2 method - A switch-around method.

We make a nice neat table again headed by 1234 this time and put in ref.25 like so:

________ 1234 (heading)
________ ------
(heading) 1234
------ => ------
_(ref.25) 1234

[For this I place my finger on the first ref. number, then look up at the heading. The ref. number is 1 so go to the right hand side and look at the 1 columb and write down under it the heading number from the left - which is also one]

____________ 1234 (heading)
____________ ------
(heading) 1234 1234 (newly aquired)
------ => ------
_(ref.25) 1234

This is a really bad example to explain because when you put the numbers 1234 through the works, it comes out - 1234 (try using a different arangement of the numbers in ref.25 and follow my method too to see the change it has)

So...basically the outcome of this would rearrange ref.26 but it doesn't as each line would read in turn how it should be read and that is 7978 (taken from ref.26)

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Right... the last of the operations from ref.23 is a 3 again which means...A Right Shift!

What you do here though is take the table you worked out in the first steps and right shift them once again to get a totaly new messed up table. The number of places you shift each digit right is derived from the step up above which was got from ref.26 so here it is - 7978 still.

Step 1

0123456789 ___ 0123456789
---------------- ----------------
2345678901 - 7 - ______ 234
8901234567 - 9 -
4567890123 - 7 -
8901234567 - 8 -

The way I shifted the numbers is - I looked at the 7 down the middle, which told me to place my finger on the 7 heading in the right hand columb and transfer the numbers from the left to the right.

Step 2

0123456789 ___ 0123456789
---------------- ----------------
2345678901 - 7 - 5678901234
8901234567 - 9 - 9012345678
4567890123 - 7 - ______ 456 (and so on untill you slowly right shift it once more)
8901234567 - 8 -


The right hand side table is now the 'keygen'.Once completed take your viewer Id and match the pin to each line of the right hand columb for example: VID = 35%&*£2 (I blotted it out on purpose by the way). e.g. if % = 4 then look across the heading to 4 then go down and you will find 9...

Final Step

0123456789 ___ 0123456789
---------------- ----------------
2345678901 - 7 - 5678901234 %
8901234567 - 9 - 9012345678 &
4567890123 - 7 - 7890123456 *
8901234567 - 8 - 0123456789 £

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Phew!!!!!!!!!!
The table does work, I've tested it and so practice and PM me if something is unclear,you get stuck or a nice word is all you want to say. It's all good.

 

[joe crow]

Thanks for this m8 copied it for future reference, have tried to work it out this way before with limited success but will have another go at it. unce:

 

[kellys]

Thanks

I for one am a Dummie so this will come in very handy for me,

Im just going to take it all in now. :Laugh:

 

[joe crow]

I for one am a Dummie so this will come in very handy for me,

Im just going to take it all in now. :Laugh:

me and you both m8 :Laugh:

 

[mei]

me and you both m8 :Laugh:

and me

 

[hgj876]

et moi lol

 

[meathead]

Hi Mc_1 great work!
Just strugling to get my head round the switch around method, could you plz do it again with a different order of numbers?
And the Keygen lookup table in the final steps you say %=4 and come up with the answer 9 I get 0 what am I doing wrong ?
Thanks again Benjyman

 

[hgj876]

hey im having the switch problem and with the 0 problem, notice the start of the lines are not aliged exactly.

 

[hamba]

Don't forget - it's not maths - just number rearranging!!

 

[bowlhed]

you can use the keygen though,jus input the values manually...so why would you want to do it manually like this?

 

[MC_1]

This one is an example of the final table above. I have just taken the right hand side so you can see all the numbers lined up properly

Theoretically if my VID = 3568321 then the highlighted part would be my pin code. The first two irrelavent numbers mean the day or month or something like that and the last number is a digit check or something, but the pin is always found there in the VID.


0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 (heading)
-----------------------
5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 % (line 1)
9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 & (line 2)
7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 * (line 3)
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 £ (line 4)

So if i was to look at my pin, I would set it out like so (and I have also labebled the line in which it will be revealed):

6 (line 1)
8 (line 2)
3 (line 3)
2 (line 4)

So to find the code for 6, I place my finger on the heading line and move my finger to 6, I would go down to line 1 and find 1

To find the code for 8, I place my finger on the heading line and move my finger to 8, I would go down to line 2 and find 7

And so on...

From my Pin example, I got the key 1702.

 

[MC_1]

This is another example for a 2 in Ref.23.

Using the numbers nix9 did to explain, I put then into a table like so:

If Ref.25 = 4132

1 2 3 4 (heading)
---------
4 1 3 2 (ref.25)

So I would put my finger on the first heading number (play along and put your finger on it) which is 1 and then I would look down to the ref. number underneath it which is 4. When I make a new table, the 1 would be under the 4 heading (like a switch around). See what just took place there? The new table would currently look like this :

? ? ? 4
--------
? ? ? 1 (result)

Right, I do the same for the next heading number 2 (put your finger on it and follow along). So I would look down and see 1 meaning when I write it out, I would have a 2 under the 1 heading.

1 ? ? 4
---------
2 ? ? 1 (result)

I would look at the 3 next in the heading and after that 4. Following the same method as described, using the digits on my hand to guide where I'm up to, I come up with:

1 2 3 4
---------
2 4 3 1 (this now dictates the Pin order that will be read)

If you can master this one, then using ref.25 = 1234, you will see how the outcome will be 1234

 

[joe crow]

@ bowlhed To get the brain cells working m8 and because I wont to see if I can do it

@ MC_1 going to master this today m8 (I hope)

 

[hgj876]

thank you MC_1 i now understand!!

 

[raptor214]

Its good for the soul not to just take the easy way in life all the time.

 

[meathead]

@ MC_1 thanks for your patients I think I have it now

 

[hamba]

you can use the keygen though,jus input the values manually...so why would you want to do it manually like this?

The fun's in working it out!!

You could say whats the point at all - there's not much worth watching on xtraview. I don't use the keygen because I'm not that desperate to watch the channel - my pleasure comes from seeing guys cracking the code and then using the code and explanations to work it out myself.

 

[MC_1]

The fun's in working it out!!

You could say whats the point at all - there's not much worth watching on xtraview. I don't use the keygen because I'm not that desperate to watch the channel - my pleasure comes from seeing guys cracking the code and then using the code and explanations to work it out myself.

Hitting the nail right on the head

 

[hamba]

And another thing: it's also fun trying to find ways of explaining how to do the calculations to people who haven't grasped it yet.

It's quite an art to explain things succinctly and takes quite a bit of work to do: good exercise for the brain though.

So well done to everyone who has provided examples and made the effort to try and explain. :drink:

 

[spud1966]

coz thats how its worked out, then (you) put the numbers into the keygen and thats you code dun for you. carnt do it my self at the mo but trying?????.

HI to all Garry