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i think you have the right idea would make things better .if it can t be done it should be banned from the forums .
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i think you have the right idea would make things better .if it can t be done it should be banned from the forums .
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this is news m8 . ..its whats happening right now . its in the papers on tv spoken in parlament . but you want us not to talk about ..
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Wouldnt it be great if we could do that.
But if people want to talk about it then fair enough as long as it doesnt turn into a slanging match then I dont see a problem.
My opinion is that its an act of parliment and was brought in for a reason. No Roman Catholic can suceed to the throne, that can and may one day be changed but it I dont see it happening any time soon. This is not a bigotted view I am statiing....the act was brought in to stop the monarch having any allegiances to heads of other states...which would be the case if a catholic suceeded because he would have allegiance to the pope and the church of Rome.
Is it an antquated law....maybe it is but if it was to change whereas a catholic monarch had no allegiance to the church of Rome and had allegiance to the UK and no outside authority then I dont see a problem.
But if the head of the church here did become the pope then we would have more discrimation cries from women as the church of rome discrimates against women being priests.
Catholics have the same right as Protestants...except for the throne but the monarch does not run the country, parliment does and you have the same right to a vote as I do.
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so say it changed m8 and all of a sudden it was a muslim on the thorne .(diana jumps to mind her killing) cant have a future king who's father in law is a muslim lol ... anyway would you be as happy then and all ministers except sf have to swear a legance to the crown and queen who are the defenders of the faith .. not my faith just yours . so they are defending your rigths of faith and are claiming theirs are the only ones that count .
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I dont give a fiddlers fek what faith anyone has...its their faith not mine. I am only concerned about having a say in how I should be governed. I dont care what faith the head of state is as long as they dont have to do what an outside authority tells them. Why should I be governed by the church of Rome when I dont live in Italy.
Why bring Muslims into this particular issue - a quick look back through British history and you will see exactly why catholics were barred from any office of importance. Its very outdated these days but most traditions and even laws are rooted in history somewhere !
tbh, why bring religeon into this thread at all. Two people that most other people have never heard of decided to get married. End of story !
tbh, why bring religeon into this thread at all. Two people that most other people have never heard of decided to get married. End of story !
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and even better, they are in love.
leave them to their honey moon.
leave them to their honey moon.
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did you read the thread m8 or just jump in . the reason religion is mention was because she had to give up being a catholic so he could keep his right to a thorne . . seems strange ...
@ jaffa . m8 the word catholic means universal m8 . rome is just a place and the days are long gone that the pope is any threat to a monarch. .dont you think that its time the act was abolished . we are either all equal or we are not . like witchy said blair had to wait till he was in power to become a catholic pm . the first ever . . times are changing m8 maybe they should catch up .
:err: The only people governed by the Church of Rome are the residents of the Vatican City, jaffa m8.
The idea of Catholics worldwide being subject to Rome is an outdated Presbyterian concept promulgated nowadays only by the likes of Ian Paisley and similar paranoid bible thumpers.
I can actually see the sense though in the ban on Catholics marrying into the Royal Family. It would make a constitutional nonsense of the Monarch's position as the Head of the Church of England.
@ nozzer. You didn't read the whole thread ,did you?
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and that, I think it is safe to say, is why the royals need to be CofE...
Yes, I read the thread.
tbh, I doubt whether either of them is particularly religeous and I seriously doubt that he ever expects to take the throne. I would expect both religeon and monarchy to be simple non-issues to both of them. I'm sure they have far more important things to think about !
And, as for the catholic rule, if you read back through history you'll see why this rule applies. Yes, its outdated and yes, it should probably be repealed but the reasons for its initial inception are plainly evident.
She didnt have to change her religion she choose too. As it being for him to remain in sucession to the throne thats a load of bollox ffs he is 10 in line and is gonna go even further down the pecking order when they pop sprogs. They are English so they have a right to their Church of England faith. Personally i think its all bollox and religion is just an excuse for a fight Should all be banned.
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brilliant post m8 ... and there is my last point . they are the head of a religion . and as such we are barred from thier exclusive group . so why should i pay taxes for them to live the way they do we they dont represent anything i believe in (though the CoE is the closet thing to a catholic without being a catholic ) they aint like the wee frees of most ohter Presbyterian strands of the christian religion.. any way i think ive said all i can say on this i would just be repeating myself . i wish the couple a long and happy marriage makes a change for them to marry for love .. so well done .
does anyone know how many other european countries have laws in place to prevent catholics becoming head of state?
How do we know she converted her religion so that her husband could keep his place in line for the throne. lets face i've got as much chance of becoming king as Peter Philips. Is it because the daily mail said so? A lot of people change their religion to that of their partner when they marry for their own reasons.
I didnt think the monarch did that much governing anymore, I thought that was the job of the elected government.
How do we know she converted her religion so that her husband could keep his place in line for the throne. lets face i've got as much chance of becoming king as Peter Philips. Is it because the daily mail said so? A lot of people change their religion to that of their partner when they marry for their own reasons.
I didnt think the monarch did that much governing anymore, I thought that was the job of the elected government.
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I probably phrased that wrong....what I meant was that the head of church would have an allegance to the pope and the church or Rome and I still believe the pope is the most powerful man in the world and I am not a Paisley supporter.
Plenty of other countries have similar laws...Spanish law uses catholic succession.
It all comes down to an act of parliment that is over 300 years old but is still in place today for the same reasons it was made.
I'm not sure about European ones but the laws here can affect other countries.
For instance, the "Act of Settlement" is actually part of the constitution of Canada. If the UK were to ammend its laws to allow a catholic monarch then Canada, under its present constitution, would have to choose another monarch (if a catholic monarch actually came to the UK throne). This would likely cause Canada to be expelled from the commonwealth, or, at the very least, cause a constitutional crisis in that country.
Edit - little more reading. Denmark, Norway and Sweden have similar constitutional rullings to guarantee their monarchs are Lutherans. Netherlands has a ruling for protestants (descended through the House of Orange). Spain and Belgian have constitutions which insist on Catholic monarchs. These rulings are by no means a British only !
lol, Jaffa been reading the same article
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Agreed
I know you will take this in the manner in is posted (as a joke) but have you ever heard the saying "we are the people"...pmsl.
