the best vcd players are dvd players with a dual laser to read the discs. Sonys are single laser so normally wont play a cdr, they sometimes play vds recorded on princo dics,sounds like you have a fussy player. Best bet would be to buy a cdr compatable player around £80 or stick to dvds <a href="http://www.sagaquest.com" target="_blank">www.sagaquest.com</a> (cheaper than vcd). <img src="graemlins/dizzy.gif" border="0" alt="[dizzy]" />