Hi Abu, thanks for update and help, was just trying again, had done in this order: inserted 'Picon' folder with picons on hard drive. Used software manager on BH to install (simultaneously) using the green button the two ipk files I had on my USB (1) rats_bouquets_latest.ipk and (2)enigma2-plugin-extensions-rats-picons_1.0_all.ipk All seem to go ok, loaded with no errors, rebooted. Did an picon update with the Rats updater that appeared in the Plugins. Now my only problem is under favourites all channels say<N/A> with no channels names. 1. <N/A> 2. <N/A> etc... What am I doing wrong or have I missed something? I'm not sure what you mean by channel updater? Thanks a mil