I would agree,
but only because if you are going to use the forum to post all this info and recruit people to help,and then when you have got all you need,revert to pm's,that just seems wrong to me tbh
and me, goes against the ethos if you ask me
I would agree,
but only because if you are going to use the forum to post all this info and recruit people to help,and then when you have got all you need,revert to pm's,that just seems wrong to me tbh
But if it does contain something nasty, it will only cause problems if and when a hacker decides to use your PC. Or maybe I'm just over paranoid... :S
Seems to me that everyone is happy to use all these biss keys and softcam keys that others find and release to view channels.
Trouble starts when members start to try and find them theirselves, they dont want to share them if they find them.
So seems all take and no give.
Seems to me that everyone is happy to use all these biss keys and softcam keys that others find and release to view channels.
Trouble starts when members start to try and find them theirselves, they dont want to share them if they find them.
So seems all take and no give.
Hi again guys, I still wonder if many subscribers to this thread have actually lost track of what this thread was actually intended for by the starter of the thread?
Was it not simply for the method by which we need to follow to open the BBC etc channels on 27.5W?
e.g. Biss keys, Vpids, etc etc
Yet, as already pointed out once before, we seem to be in the depths of what appears to be MUCH more than just that original intention?
Surely the answer would have been to start a brand NEW thread with all this very 'technical' and other discussion - to enable those who need to read the 'simpler' aspects as posted originally - even though even at THAT time it did seem VERY complicated to many of we ordinary satellite enthusiasts - as a new thread would allow those involved in this 'other' line of investigation to continue without confusion?
Just a 'thought' you understand!
Ask your self how many people are using the new key who didn't bother to contribute anything to the search.
The first post in this thread simply lists the channels and mentions the '8280' PhantomPatch code to gain access to the BISS menu. It makes no indication of where the OP expects the tread to go after that.
@holmroad
I tend to agree with you about the original intent of this thread and what it has now spiralled into,
If you could advise where in your opinion I should separate the two please?
TIA
I will try sort this out over the weekend as i have my daughters college graduation tomorrow
Just my 2 cents here if your going to create a Thread specifically for just Calculation/Extraction of a Biss key then why not go the whole hog and create a Biss key section as the method used here is used on every BISS encoded channel going.
So even if the posts are sorted into relevant threads then you will have questions in the so called calculation thread for 27.5° west for other keys for other channels so to speak.
My own personal opinion on this is leave as is everything discussed from start to Finnish on this thread has been relevant to obtaining the Biss key for the BBC Channels on 27.5° west
you would have to be VERY carefull with what you say, as you would be openly discussing how to activley bypass a secure encryption system, thus avoiding payment for access to services, which end users would not be permitted to decode, which, in most parts of the world, is illegal. Keep things to PM, and let those who cannot do it for themselfs, wait untill a 'public' fix is released for them.
for the record, I have no way of finding BISS keys, but it IS something id like to do, just for the idea of being able to do it, but i dont have the hardware required. a LOT of people have the hardware in their PCs to do it, but they simply dont want to do it, they just want the 'fix', even though i have no use for these keys, i'd still like to 'break' one, even a known one, myself
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