£6 broadband tax to be made law before election, minister says

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£6 broadband tax to be made law before election, minister says

Digital Britain 'broadband tax' on landlines will be in finance bill this year, treasury minister Stephen Timms says

The government is pressing ahead with plans to introduce its controversial £6 a year broadband tax before the election, despite potential opposition from the Conservatives.

Stephen Timms, the treasury minister in charge of implementing the Digital Britain plan, said today that a 50p a month levy on all UK phone lines will be contained in this year's finance bill.

"My aim is that we should legislate for that this side of a general election," he said at a debate on IT and the economy in London organised by BCS, the chartered institute for IT.

The levy would raise £150m to £175m a year, Timms said, for a fund to support the development of superfast broadband networks over the next seven years.

But the response of the Conservatives to the plan has been lukewarm at best, leading to concerns that the levy would have to be ditched.

Parliamentary convention dictates that this close to a general election — which must be called by next summer — the autumn's finance bill should be short and uncontroversial. The winners of the election would then put in place their manifesto pledges in a full Budget next year.

But Timms reiterated, speaking after the BCS debate, that "my intention is to pass legislation before the election".

He gave no indication that an understanding has been reached with the Tories, suggesting the government has decided to go it alone on what it believes to be a matter of vital national infrastructure.

This would present a Conservative government under David Cameron with a serious problem, since the fund could bring fast broadband within reach of Tory-voting rural areas, and dumping it could anger industry and regional action groups.




Richard Wray
Wednesday 23 September 2009 11.31 BST
guardian.co.uk © Guardian News and Media Limited 2009
 
Great!

I've always wanted to pay for some lazy git to sit at home all day wanking, when he should be looking for work.

Beware, 'the children' will be used as an excuse.
 
So this was the idea to get Britain fully connected, tell us we all need broadband and then tax us for it. Typical government tactics.
 
I thought I had read a couple of weeks ago that they had abandonded this ?

Whats next ? Tax on food so that we can supply them with meals-on-wheels whilst they browse their porn ?
 
typical govenment - they always now say one thing to test the waters, then say they will abandon it, then put it in anyways.!!
labour are dead in the next election, this is just the icing on the cake.

now i think they have this so wrong, im totally confused to why they are putting a broadband tax on PHONE LINES. Shouldnt the tax be added to broad band connections not phone lines!!???.
example, my grandmother is capable of having broadband, but never in her wildest dreams would she connect, but she has to pay the tax!!??.
now if she had broadband then i would say fairgame to apply the tax to her broadband account but not to a phone line.
the other thing is, it starts off at 50p per month - for the first 12 months, then they realise they are onto a money spinner then it will be £5 per month then so on and so forth.
i think this is a case of robbing the poor to feed the rich
the only real people that will suffer because of labours incompetance is the elderly on fixed / low pensions. if i cocked up as much as they do in my job i would have been sacked years back.......
Shut the door on the way out labour party.....
(an ex labour supporter)
 
This is the real reason why Labour wanted us all to have broadband, to tax us for it!

Genius. they don't half come up with some great new ways of taxing us!
 
Soon have to pay tax to breathe, but only on odd days.
 
The scheme sounds like a last gasp cash grab by an exiting government.

It's pretty shameful considering that we are all strapped for a little cash at the moment and being the internet junkies that we are, we'll all pay up.
 
£6 isnt allot of money but i can see it being raised every year in the budget..

The connies appose it so hopefully they will abondon it....
 
They have to implement it by April right otherwise new laws, new systems etc are put on hold. I am working on a govt database (cant talk much about it Im afraid) but from what I hear the tories want to get rid of govt databases so my company intends to complete it and go live by March.
The community, healthcare workers, councils etc all want what the system hence the reason to complete by March.

Govt will get credit for digitalising britain all over and forget the taxpayers paid for it all. Bloody wankers.
 
i can't believe what i am reading here.................i know its only 6 pound a year but that then goes on countless other bills

Heres mine

Rent,council tax,gas,electricity,water rates,tv license,food, many insurances,mot,car tax and loads of other bills that come out and add another to the list fooking BB tax

is this country not making enough money???

seems not...........once again we are funding the lazy coonts in power and we have no say in anything

it becomes law.i don't abide..i could probably go to prison for non payment of BB tax pmsl
 
So for years now we've been paying through the nose for sub-standard BB in both speed and cost compared to the rest of europe, let alone asia. This money has been fleeced by the private networks so they can all drive around in BMW's instead of TRUELY investing in the infrastructure. We end up being capped or throttled so it stiffles any chance of actually embracing emerging technologies like streaming HD, as you've reached your threshold in no time at all.... now we are to be taxed so we can bail out our own future use. I assume the networks will be nationalised then and we can pay a fair price for our compulsory investment? MY ARSE WILL WE :Mad2:
 
So this was the idea to get Britain fully connected, tell us we all need broadband and then tax us for it. Typical government tactics.
Captain, abit off topic mate but how the hell have you got 200mb/s download?
 
So for years now we've been paying through the nose for sub-standard BB in both speed and cost compared to the rest of europe, let alone asia. This money has been fleeced by the private networks so they can all drive around in BMW's instead of TRUELY investing in the infrastructure. We end up being capped or throttled so it stiffles any chance of actually embracing emerging technologies like streaming HD, as you've reached your threshold in no time at all.... now we are to be taxed so we can bail out our own future use. I assume the networks will be nationalised then and we can pay a fair price for our compulsory investment? MY ARSE WILL WE :Mad2:

quit so:Clap::Clap:

reason this tax is, even, muted. is because we allowed the company's that run them (substantially BT) to plough their profits into share holders, not updating the network they rely on. leaving US with the bill now. so we bail them out, and still get nowt back. share holders are happy though. bigger network, more dividends. and they don't pay a penny!
 
Captain, abit off topic mate but how the hell have you got 200mb/s download?

Photoshop can be your friend - you can get it to say anything. Unless they've moved Coventry near Ashford where they're trialing 200 Mbit ;)

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Yeah, if we can't all stream porn in HD, we are doomed as a race.

I am sick to the back teeth of the debate around the internet, and its place as some sort magical unguent that allows quality of life. Broadband is not as important as water. You know what is? Water!

The reason why we have moved on (20MB, 50MB connections) is because of competition. If BT did not have such a stranglehold on the infrastructure things would have moved even faster.

The tax has sod all to do with superfast networks, and more to do with sticking their nose in. I would much prefer government pressure on BT to actually supply broadband to the places in the UK that do not have it (of course they won't).

How long until a bit of that tax goes to the BBC for iPlayer? Yep that's right, a license fee for internet.
 
Tax Tax Tax The fat cat have to get all the smokers that gave up to get broadband to make up for the tax lost on tobacco Robbing bar stewards i mean even Dick Turpin wore a mask to rob people they do it face to face
 
I don't want to go OT with this but just wanted to make a valid point regarding this mate.

Yeah, if we can't all stream porn in HD, we are doomed as a race.

I am sick to the back teeth of the debate around the internet, and its place as some sort magical unguent that allows quality of life. Broadband is not as important as water. You know what is? Water!

Perhaps to you but for many it is just that.... My whole income/business is reliant on using the internet as a base for development and distribution. Standard faster access has a direct impact on the growth and demand of many businesses. Collaborative projects become more efficient to work on as you can shift files about quickly. Bigger, better and more complicated products become easier to distribute and therfore the demand is there. The advantages are significant.

I'm also recently disabled. As an end user the internet is invaluable to me now. I can shop online without the pain of getting into town and around the stores, that still have stiff fooking doors and awkward steps to negotiate, not to mention the logistics of getting from A to B without being hit by a pushchair or knocked into by ignorant public.

I can get support and visual instruction via webcam from a clinic I use in the US. I'd like to utilise that technology I pay for so I can see in greater detail at full screen high res without being glitchy or throttled.

I don't have a blockbuster near me and I certainly can't just jump in the car so the thought of being able to click a mouse to watch a streaming HD movie without, again, being throttled or capped, would be a nice seeing as I spent all that money on a HD TV :)

I'm sure I could get by longer without it than I could without water but it certainly is far more valuable to me than perhaps a car is to you, and yes, I think I'd even go so far as to say it is some kind of magical unguent to ease a lot of my wounds and allows a better quality of life. I'm sure I'm not the only one with similar uses.

Having said that, I would be devastated if the HD porn was to dry up :banana: Nurse! I can't reach the tissues again :blushing:
 
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