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Motorist is banned over speed trap alert
By Stewart Payne
(Filed: 03/06/2004)


A pensioner who warned motorists of a police speed trap was convicted of wilfully obstructing a constable in the execution of his duty, banned from driving and ordered to pay £364 costs yesterday.



Stuart Harding, 71, was attempting to slow motorists down as they approached a Sunday morning car boot sale where many people were crossing the road.

Noticing that police were parked nearby with an officer using a hand-held laser speed camera, he decided that a warning stating "Speed Trap - 300 yards ahead" would be the most effective way of getting drivers to reduce their speed. But as soon as the officers noticed his placard he was cautioned for committing an offence.

Harding, a retired instrument maker, who appeared before magistrates in Aldershot, Hants, yesterday, had pleaded not guilty to the charge. He said: "I have been convicted of breaking the law because I was trying to stop others from doing so. It is totally unjust."

Harding said he had stood at the same spot, on the A325 at Farnborough, on previous Sundays warning drivers of the car boot sale, and had received a thumbs-up sign from a passing police car. But the attitude of officers changed when he warned drivers of the speed camera.

Robert Manley, prosecuting, said: "In displaying this sign the defendant was giving motorists advanced warning of a road safety camera being operated by the police 300 yards further along the road."

He said the intention was that any motorist contravening road traffic regulations by driving at excessive speed would avoid doing so having been given notice of what the police were doing.

Sgt Sarah Cashman told the court that when she cautioned Harding and confiscated the sign he told her: "I stop people speeding down here. I am only doing what I think is right".

Asked if he knew there was a speed camera ahead he said: "Yes, that is why I am doing it".

Alex Wyman, the presiding magistrate, told Harding: "The use of the sign was a deliberate and intentional act and by use of the words 'speed trap' you were assisting speeding motorists from being prosecuted."

After his conviction Harding told the magistrates he planned to appeal, adding that he needed his car to drive to church and that he was due to take his wife and friends on holiday in a camper van.

The clerk of the court pointed out to magistrates that unless the ban was suspended it would have run its course before the appeal was heard. But they ordered it should take immediate effect.

The court also confiscated Harding's sign and ordered it to be destroyed.

After the case he said that he had been told that fines collected from speeding motorists on that stretch of the road had netted £12,000 in one morning alone.

"It seems to be more about raising revenue than road safety. I'm just so angry and upset about the driving ban. It was totally uncalled for because this wasn't a motoring offence," he said.
 
Surley the whole point is to stop people speeding and cut down on crashes.
Perhaps the police should just put up cardboard signs warning that speed trap 300 yards ahead as it seemed to work. then they can go out and catch real crooks muggers, house breakers and drug dealers. or is it just all about the money.
 
is this what we pay our police to do? im sorry but that is absolutely pathetic, convicting and old man for doing something like that, they should be ashamed of themselved.
a police chief has already admitted that speed traps dont save lives, they bring in money! so whats the point
 
But surely the Speed Camera Signs that are dotted along the road (even if there isn't a camera) are doing the same thing. Perhaps we should prosecute the local councils for displaying them! Or how about the police themselves when they put the blue signs on the motorway saying "SPEED CHECK AREA".

What this guy did was a bit silly what he needed to do is change the wording to...

"Slow Down Mobile Doughnut Eaters Ahead!"
 
pipehose said:
Alex Wyman, the presiding magistrate, told Harding: "The use of the sign was a deliberate and intentional act and by use of the words 'speed trap' you were assisting speeding motorists from being prosecuted."

Dont think much of the guys solicitor then. Where was the proof that any of the warned motorists were originally speeding?
 
Tossers!!bleedin plod wouldn't know a criminal if they were bitten by one.They're to scared to do thier real job so they just nick motorist's cause its easy and safe.I'm gonna stop now b4 I go off on 1........****ing ***king plodites kiss my ***king *rse
 
Ohhh Dear, here we go again......I can't beleive what I've just read, if that is not making an Ass of the law I'll be dammned, what a waste of Police/Law Courts time and OUR money!! :Jester: :Jester:
The guy was doing a 'good deed', he should be thanked for his citizenly act. Can't see how they can find him guilty, as surely they'd have too prove that motorists where speeding in the first place????? Absolutely incredible!.......
Would be interesting to find the 'worst' bit road in Sussex for accidents and see how often the Fed's patrol/speed trap it.....something tells me it won't be that often because they can probably make more money elsewhere! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Perhaps they don't have problems with Robbery, Burglary etc in Sussex?????? NOT!! B*ll*cks!
 
So in theory the plod should now be prosecuting for any past offences of this nature. Does this mean that we are going to see the RAC hauled up in front of the beak - in the older days, and it is well known, when an RAC man waived at it's members it was because there was a police speed trap up ahead. "Therefore your Honour I would like you to take into account 14 million other offences into account."

What also strikes me as odd about this - they banned the guy from driving but he was not commiting a road traffic offence. Obstructing an officer of Dunkin Doughnuts is not considered a traffic offence.

I suppose he better be careful they'll take his pension next time. I suppose they need the money as the cost of living goes up every year so must the cost of the chocolate dipping sauce.

I think he should win on appeal. Not only will he get his money back with interest BUT as he would have served his sentance he will be able to screw them for wrongful prosecution.
 
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