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Gazzae21

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Hey people, just a quick thread with a couple questions regarding my new house I'm purchasing with a couple weeks left until completion.

the house currently has VM installed, so I am having VM's new 300down 20up internet, however because it is already installed I would have to pay £99+ engineer call out charge to add some new wiring around the house, which of corse I told them where to go.

so any tips on the following would be great.

the router is currently sitting in the centre of the house in a cabinet above the staircase between the lower and upper floor (current owner says great for wireless reception) so I was thinking of stripping out what ever is under the stairs and making it the networking server housing. The house will be home automated so I will need Ethernet cabling (got a few rolls of cat6 already) around the house, mainly to spare room upstairs for the office and NAS, and then to the living room for the TV system and the zgemma box.

now my questions to you is as I will be decorating (not renovating as the house has not long been done) what would you suggest the easiest way for routing the Ethernet cabling around the house, back to the switch and patch box under the stairs? The least amount of ripping out and refinishing the better, although it is hard floor through img the downstairs (tiles in kitchen) and carpet upstairs which I was thinking of lifting up to hide wires?

also a final question, regarding the wireless network, I was thinking of adding 1-2 access points around the house to help with any drop outs for the wireless devices like iPads/phones/home automation, are there any you suggest that work well meshed for good hand over (also if need be work with a particular router I could buy).


Sorry for the long one, but in short, any tips/tricks with network wiring hiding and suggestions on access points with good hand over.

cheers.
 
Would it not be better to have the "networking gear" where most appropriate/convenient to house/run cabling to other locations?

Run several network cables to every room and maybe central area for access points. Like ceiling in hallway between rooms.
 
Would it not be better to have the "networking gear" where most appropriate/convenient to house/run cabling to other locations?

Run several network cables to every room and maybe central area for access points. Like ceiling in hallway between rooms.

Hey, yeah I was thinking that, but as for convenience the cabling from the Virgin line in goes under the stairs to their hub, and I would like to wire up a few to each room, possible thinking of using some 2-4way faceplates into the skirting boards and going behind the skirting boards with the cabling, but it's a matter of getting it around to each room without chiseling out all the walls, as they have not long been skimmed by the current owner.

have you had any experience extending the providers line in? Like me moving it from the current location into the office upstairs to put into the network cage?

cheers again.
 
There is an isolator as soon as you enter the house. After that, it is just a double screened co-axial cable. If you shorten the cable, you may need to add an attenuator.

You don't have to move it. You can just run a network cable from it to your network cage and then branch out from there.
 
I don't get why you need dedicated server room what equipment do you have? Are you planning on installing a 19" rack? 12u, 24u?

What you need to figure out is how many network cables you want in each room and the neatest way to run. From upstairs to downstairs probably lifting the floor boards is best bet.

Depends on what your usage requirements is.

You say everything is going to be automated. So guess your spending thousands of pounds? Chasing out a few walls to do it properly would surely be worth it.

What's automation hardware is going in?

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I don't get why you need dedicated server room what equipment do you have? Are you planning on installing a 19" rack? 12u, 24u?

What you need to figure out is how many network cables you want in each room and the neatest way to run. From upstairs to downstairs probably lifting the floor boards is best bet.

Depends on what your usage requirements is.

You say everything is going to be automated. So guess your spending thousands of pounds? Chasing out a few walls to do it properly would surely be worth it.

What's automation hardware is going in?

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Hey cheers for input, I don't need a dedicated "room" as such.. Just a space to put the networking stuff.. I.e a space for all the wiring / hardware to start/finish lol.

As for the automation/equipment, the main reason for asking was due to the current house has been built up over a few years of as the Mrs would call it, "lots of hobbies gone to far" lol. The automation side was mainly smartthings hubs+ accessories and zwave devices, (Phillips hue lighting, TV control, heating control, alarm system, door locks and security cameras) as well as some Sonos multi room speakers around the house. For networking it was mainly a NAS with a few HDDs wired up to a few TVs around, with the latest addition of a couple zgemma h2h boxes.

so it's basically, wired as and where I could route over the last couple years, and has built up, which I'm basically wanting to try and do a "proper" setup from the start with the new house so I can expand easier with the hobbies lol the wanting to run cable with least amount of patch work was mainly for the least amount of ear ache for myself, but I'm coming the the realisation it might have to be done :D
 
Best bet is to put atleast 2 network points in every room with more in say living room, office / study etc.

Ignore the home automation part. You will just have a bunch smart / network devices.

Invest in a good managed switch like a NETGEAR 24 port gigabit possibly with poe depending on what cctv or WiFi access points you get.

Good WiFi is key. Don't know how big or old the house is but more than likely you will need an WiFi access point.

Think about where your TV is going. Is going to be wall mounted if so put your connections higher.

Don't forget about freeview. All good and well having these enigma2 boxes but if it all goes tits up or you lose broadband due to a fault at least you got freeview.

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Why not consider using homeplugs? You can add as many as you like and feed the output into an inexpensive switch in each room if need be and you can strategically place homeplugs with wifi access point built in at locations that need them


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