Bt and virgin phone socket

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Does aanyone know if the bt phone sockets and virgin phone sockets are the same?

Reason I ask is when my virgin phone was installed I opened the socket up and stuck an extension into the bedroom and both the front room and bedroom phones would ring at the same time. I have now got a bt line in and got rid of the virgin line. But because of the wiring in my house my main line is bt which is connected to a phone which works. On the same bt socket on the inside I have connected up the old wires which then go into a virgin box. That box has an extension which goes into the bedroom and a phone is plugged in. It works but the phone on the extention will give a continous ring and the main line does not ring at all. But, while its rining, if I pick up either phone I can take the call.

Am I better in getting rid of the virgin box in the middle or are all the boxes the same?
 
so if I read that right..

you have connected your bt master to the virgin master.... ?

If so, bypass the virgin master mate :)
 
Sorted! The config on the virgin box was different than on bt. Same wires just different setup. They have some orange wire. Bt is only one dark blue which is B and one blue with white stripe which is A. Got a bt line running through a virgin box now lol.
 
Sorted! The config on the virgin box was different than on bt. Same wires just different setup. They have some orange wire. Bt is only one dark blue which is B and one blue with white stripe which is A. Got a bt line running through a virgin box now lol.

Its the 2nd pair mate. BT cables, come in different pair sizes. There are 5 primary colours, and 5 secondary.

Blue/Blue-white
Orange/Orange-white
Green/green-white
Brown/Brown-white
Grey/grey-white

Then same, but with a red wire instead of white.
 
extentions are supposed to have a 3rd wire and be wired to the face plate.

master (first main socket) wires a and b
faceplate on master 2,3 and 4 run to the same numbers on the first extention and repeat for each extention. i dont think it will cause any bother but the third wire is ment for the ringer on old phones if memory serves. its somthing to do with ren numbers i think. i never paid much attention when i was fitting them i just croned stuff in and legged it lol.
 
As long as the 3 from them master is connected to the 3 on the slave the slave will ring. You will of course need the 2 n 5 connected between them as well.

Continuous ring is usually 2 on master to 3 on slave.

Ren - 1 master can power 4 rens. After that the easiest thigh to do is put another master in but don't connect the 3 on the incoming.

Just for info.

Wow I left virgin 4 year ago and I can still remember.

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extentions are supposed to have a 3rd wire and be wired to the face plate.

master (first main socket) wires a and b
faceplate on master 2,3 and 4 run to the same numbers on the first extention and repeat for each extention. i dont think it will cause any bother but the third wire is ment for the ringer on old phones if memory serves. its somthing to do with ren numbers i think. i never paid much attention when i was fitting them i just croned stuff in and legged it lol.

Its 2 and 5 mate, not 2 and 4. And you dont need the 3 wire anymore, simply because sockets have a capacitor that makes it ring, so you dont connect the 3rd wire anymore.

It dont matter what colour wires you use, as long as they match at both ends.
 
I had no numbered ones. Only A and B.

Nowhere are the numbered ones connected. It was on the virgin but i took it off and just copied the BTsocket.
 
I had no numbered ones. Only A and B.

Nowhere are the numbered ones connected. It was on the virgin but i took it off and just copied the BTsocket.

A and B are on the main socket at the back. If you connect extensions and such you would use the 2,3,5 combo.
 
A and B are on the main socket at the back. If you connect extensions and such you would use the 2,3,5 combo.

That's the thing mate, I didn't. Just ran another wire on top of the existing. So on the main box, I got two wires coming in and going into a and b. I just added two more on top and ran it to the extension. Is that bad? I mean its working.
 
That's the thing mate, I didn't. Just ran another wire on top of the existing. So on the main box, I got two wires coming in and going into a and b. I just added two more on top and ran it to the extension. Is that bad? I mean its working.

its not supposed to be that way but it does work. its all to do with powering the ringer on the phone its self. but quiet a few modern phones have there own power now.
 
its not supposed to be that way but it does work. its all to do with powering the ringer on the phone its self. but quiet a few modern phones have there own power now.

So essentially its just a power cable really?

One phone is powered by the mains and other is old style phone.
 
yes pin 3 runs to a capacitor in the master for it to drive the ringer on the extentions.
 
That's the thing mate, I didn't. Just ran another wire on top of the existing. So on the main box, I got two wires coming in and going into a and b. I just added two more on top and ran it to the extension. Is that bad? I mean its working.

If you pick up either phone whilst on the call, it may cross the lines. But if its working, then dont fix it. You should of just run them as extensions mate. But as said, if it works dont worry about it.
 
If you pick up either phone whilst on the call, it may cross the lines. But if its working, then dont fix it. You should of just run them as extensions mate. But as said, if it works dont worry about it.

When you say cross the line, do you mean you can hearwhat they are saying?
Thats what i wanted. So you can have a 3 way conversation.
 
extentions are supposed to have a 3rd wire and be wired to the face plate.

master (first main socket) wires a and b
faceplate on master 2,3 and 4 run to the same numbers on the first extention and repeat for each extention. i dont think it will cause any bother but the third wire is ment for the ringer on old phones if memory serves. its somthing to do with ren numbers i think. i never paid much attention when i was fitting them i just croned stuff in and legged it lol.

The 3rd wire was done away with many years ago, in fact when party lines were done away with. The 3rd wire was a ring return to ring the bell on the extension phone. Now you only need the pair and as janobi say terminal 2 and 5 are the correct ones. If you have a 3rd wire it should be removed from the terminal to prevent it causing problems on the broadband.
 
as i said a few posts up modern phones dont need it. i didnt know it caused issues wsith bb though
 
as i said a few posts up modern phones dont need it. i didnt know it caused issues wsith bb though

It dont always, but it can mate. Also star wiring makes BB go nuts. But all new sockets come with a capacitor that makes it ring.
 
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