Any reason not many people have these?

I'm guessing from the lack of posts in this section that either 1. not many people have them or 2. they know what they're doing?

Quite right maddop, you put words to what mpst people must have suspected all along. Do you have one?

Yeah, i've got one. Had it for quite a while now. I think its great. Still not using all features yet though.

Ultimos, Duo 2's etc would come under the heading of "enthusiasts grade" and as such most people that have them know what they're doing, normal (in the nicest possible way) people have no need for multiple tuners and boxes with bells and whistles.

The price also puts a lot of people off the ultimo when it came out was over 500 euros the duo 2 is 400 euros I think.