ok peeps my new Willem 4.0 Programer came today got it from willem .org its the one in a case . I av got a 4000n box and it has cr3 on it the purpley cr. I want to read the atmel and take the cr3 dump from the box too put on a m8s 4000n which has recently been hit in TW area his box is on cr1 with the no up date mod done , Can anyone advise where to start not done this b4.