The Reasons Teleport or VOD will never be seen on a DBOX

Hi all,
I recently lost my Front Row services so like everyone else I have searched everywhere and everyway to try to get them back (even though I never got to watch them).
Anyway I have come to the conclusion that despite the rumours that it is possible, it isn't.
The teleport service will work like this:
The teleport user will select his/hers disired movie. This will send a signal to the telewest server which will then start to stream it to the specefic IP address and or viewing card number. It will definately be locked to the specefic viewing card as they will need the proof that the customer has infact received it. If the customer has the new PVR I presume the film will be downloaded to the harddrive. If not it will be just like watching a movie clip online, hence it will be streamed. So it will not be sent through a transponder it will be downloaded over the internet. Therefore the only way to get the film/file will be to access the individual cable box. A bit like hacking into someones home network.
Where as Front Row was sent to every digital box and could be accessed by entering a pin number which basicly told the box to decode it.
It may be possible to access the service with a chipped telewest box. But every time you comunicate you run the risk of your box getting zapped and or possibly getting caught and prosecuted.
Anyway this isn't gospal, its simply the conclusion I have come to after a couple of days of searching around.
de_deej
 
Maybe a system where you could scan for films that are or have been sent and maybe clone thier macs somehow and get access to the films, somehow using your modem ??....i really dont know....it just a speculation
 
Hi,

that could be possible but whats the likely hood that you will perform the scan the exact time they order the movie. You will probably just get the last 5 mins or something.

de_deej
 
Other people have been catching these vod/teleport streams by scanning using a qam256 scan. then transfering the files edited to suit the dbox. People on other forums have reported varying success with this method but it is still a road to nowhere imho because it is limited to what people around you are watching. I think someone mentioned that it may be node specific. But i think the thing about it only being accessed through a certain mac address cant be correct if the above is actually true. I cant verify this myself as we still have front row ect.
 
Maybe its a good idea to change modulation in the cables.xml to modulation="6" and do a full service scan.
 
Diddy said:
Other people have been catching these vod/teleport streams by scanning using a qam256 scan. then transfering the files edited to suit the dbox. People on other forums have reported varying success with this method but it is still a road to nowhere imho because it is limited to what people around you are watching. I think someone mentioned that it may be node specific. But i think the thing about it only being accessed through a certain mac address cant be correct if the above is actually true. I cant verify this myself as we still have front row ect.

The problem I have with being able to receive it, is I know telewest had to wait until their 10mb broadband was stable before they could release teleport which sugests they are sending it directly to the boxes network card. I hope I am proved wrong and I will try everything I can to get it working. I just think it will probably be in vain.

de_deej
 
if VOD is tranmitted via Ip as you say, there is will be MAC address assosiated with the deviced that is registered to access / download such media. - yes or no ?
If so.... would it not be possible for VOD enable'd boxes be sniffed out ( like mac address of cable modem's at the moment) and clonned from different nodes.
I aint read anything about VOD ..... so i dont know .. am just trying to be logical.
 
de_deej said:
Hi,
that could be possible but whats the likely hood that you will perform the scan the exact time they order the movie. You will probably just get the last 5 mins or something.
de_deej
but if a genuine box is scan'd and cloned .. then the cloned bax could request VOD on a different node at anytime?
If that aint the case .. then clonding cable modem wudn't work would it ?
 
Vinney said:
but if a genuine box is scan'd and cloned .. then the cloned bax could request VOD on a different node at anytime?
If that aint the case .. then clonding cable modem wudn't work would it ?

This may be possible but not on the Dbox as it can't talkback.
 
Vinney said:
if VOD is tranmitted via Ip as you say, there is will be MAC address assosiated with the deviced that is registered to access / download such media. - yes or no ?
If so.... would it not be possible for VOD enable'd boxes be sniffed out ( like mac address of cable modem's at the moment) and clonned from different nodes.
I aint read anything about VOD ..... so i dont know .. am just trying to be logical.

Again this may be possible but the likely hood of you performing a scan and setting it up exactly when the user demands it are very slim.

I am pretty sure that it will be like accessing a network and streaming it directly to the box, otherwise they will not be able to confirm the start time.

I am just speculating, and I am sure cloned cable boxes will be able to do it in the future. But from what I have heared they are turnt of every other month and need to be re-flashed.

de_deej
 
de_deej said:
This may be possible but not on the Dbox as it can't talkback.

there must be something on the market that can plug into the dbox .... or a new type of 'dbox' with talkback.
 
I have got teleport working you can only watch what someone has ordered but it is the best at the moment if you do a scan you may pick up a teleport channel that has been ordered when there is no program it will not scan and if you go on a channel that you have when no program is on it will say no channel you don’t get a EPG as if you ordered it you know the program or film you ordered this is the teleport list for Bristol area each area will have different programs as the area are split up so on teleport channel 1 you may have a film down the road no film or little Brittan. I hope this helps
<cable name="CableUK Sym6952">
<transponder id="f637" onid="f020" frequency="571000000" inversion="2" symbol_rate="6952000" fec_inner="3" modulation="3">
<channel service_id="0001" name="Teleport 1" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0002" name="Teleport 2" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0003" name="Teleport 3" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0004" name="Teleport 4" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0005" name="Teleport 5" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0006" name="Teleport 6" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0007" name="Teleport 7" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0008" name="Teleport 8" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0009" name="Teleport 9" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000a" name="Teleport 10" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000b" name="Teleport 11" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000c" name="Teleport 12" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000d" name="Teleport 13" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000e" name="Teleport 14" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000f" name="Teleport 15" service_type="01"/>
</transponder>
<transponder id="f638" onid="f020" frequency="579000000" inversion="2" symbol_rate="6952000" fec_inner="3" modulation="3">
<channel service_id="0001" name="Teleport 16" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0002" name="Teleport 17" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0003" name="Teleport 18" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0004" name="Teleport 19" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0005" name="Teleport 20" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0006" name="Teleport 21" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0007" name="Teleport 22" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0008" name="Teleport 23" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0009" name="Teleport 24" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000a" name="Teleport 25" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000b" name="Teleport 26" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000c" name="Teleport 27" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000d" name="Teleport 28" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000e" name="Teleport 29" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000f" name="Teleport 30" service_type="01"/>
</transponder>
<transponder id="f639" onid="f020" frequency="587000000" inversion="2" symbol_rate="6952000" fec_inner="3" modulation="3">
<channel service_id="0001" name="Teleport 31" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0002" name="Teleport 32" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0003" name="Teleport 33" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0004" name="Teleport 34" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0005" name="Teleport 35" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0006" name="Teleport 36" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0007" name="Teleport 37" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0008" name="Teleport 38" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0009" name="Teleport 39" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000a" name="Teleport 40" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000b" name="Teleport 41" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000c" name="Teleport 42" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000d" name="Teleport 43" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000e" name="Teleport 44" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000f" name="Teleport 45" service_type="01"/>
</transponder>
<transponder id="f63a" onid="f020" frequency="595000000" inversion="2" symbol_rate="6952000" fec_inner="3" modulation="3">
<channel service_id="0001" name="Teleport 46" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0002" name="Teleport 47" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0003" name="Teleport 48" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0004" name="Teleport 49" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0005" name="Teleport 50" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0006" name="Teleport 51" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0007" name="Teleport 52" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0008" name="Teleport 53" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0009" name="Teleport 54" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000a" name="Teleport 55" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000b" name="Teleport 56" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000c" name="Teleport 57" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000d" name="Teleport 58" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000e" name="Teleport 59" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000f" name="Teleport 60" service_type="01"/>
</transponder>
<transponder id="f63b" onid="f020" frequency="603000000" inversion="2" symbol_rate="6952000" fec_inner="3" modulation="3">
<channel service_id="0001" name="Teleport 61" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0002" name="Teleport 62" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0003" name="Teleport 63" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0004" name="Teleport 64" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0005" name="Teleport 65" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0006" name="Teleport 66" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0007" name="Teleport 67" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0008" name="Teleport 68" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0009" name="Teleport 69" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000a" name="Teleport 70" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000b" name="Teleport 71" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000c" name="Teleport 72" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000d" name="Teleport 73" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000e" name="Teleport 74" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000f" name="Teleport 75" service_type="01"/>
</transponder>
<transponder id="f63c" onid="f020" frequency="611000000" inversion="2" symbol_rate="6952000" fec_inner="3" modulation="3">
<channel service_id="0001" name="Teleport 76" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0002" name="Teleport 77" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0003" name="Teleport 78" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0004" name="Teleport 79" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0005" name="Teleport 80" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0006" name="Teleport 81" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0007" name="Teleport 82" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0008" name="Teleport 83" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="0009" name="Teleport 84" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000a" name="Teleport 85" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000b" name="Teleport 86" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000c" name="Teleport 87" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000d" name="Teleport 88" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000e" name="Teleport 89" service_type="01"/>
<channel service_id="000f" name="Teleport 90" service_type="01"/>
</transponder>
 
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