Ok guys got it sorted.Think it was pure fluke as I rebooted the box in stream and pushed connect in BKE as it was booting and it gave it up.
I had tried everyway I cud reading from various threads and it was a no no so as I say dont know what I done diff in the end to get it apart from Connect just as it was booting up.
Thanx for your help and sugesstions I had been at this box all day Phew...............