Thanks alot m8 u have made my night, i tried to bend the pin on my 4010 and bent it to far, done this because i was getting a mute error in em and pin didnt look right, i have 2 spare 4001s with 2 slots so thats good. cheers that will give me something to do 2moro, the 4001's are at my da's house so i couldnt tell if they were. Thanks m8