Obama threatens court action over US oil spill

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Is it me or is this just typical Yank shouting and hollering, their whole economy is based on oil and its bi-products so they need to suck it out of the ground, and by its very nature that the have got all the easy stuff that sometimes there are going to be mistakes and accidents.

no doubt BP will not get any contracts in usa waters again, but do these people think that BP or any of its employees thought ah what happens if i do this......ooops !

maybe i look at things too simplistically but get a grip Obama

IT WAS a F***ING ACCIDENT​



Obama threatens court action over US oil spill

44 mins ago
AFP Allen Johnson


"If our laws were broken leading to this death and destruction, my solemn pledge is that we will bring those responsible to justice on behalf of the victims of this catastrophe and the people of the Gulf region," Obama vowed.

Calling it the "greatest environmental disaster of its kind in our history," Obama said the government had an "obligation" to find out what caused an explosion on the BP-operated Deepwater Horizon rig on April 20.

He raised the prospect of court action after talks with a White House panel investigation the spill, as Attorney General Eric Holder visited the Gulf to assess legal options.

Under huge pressure to stop the spill, BP shares plummeted Tuesday 15.49 percent to 418.15 pence following the news it had failed on Saturday once again to cap the leak.

BP chief operating officer Doug Suttles said Tuesday the company now hoped to cap the rig's fractured pipe within the next 24 hours, thanks to a new maneuver -- earlier than the British energy giant had previously predicted.

"If everything goes well, within the next 24 hours, we could have this contained," Suttles told reporters in Louisiana.

The latest operation -- dubbed a lower marine riser pipe -- would cut off the jagged edges of the leaking pipe and then seal it with a tight cap. A tube would then siphon most of the oil to a ship on the surface.

In cutting the riser pipe, however, BP is running the risk of unleashing an even larger torrent of oil.

If it works, BP engineers plan to lower another dome to capture a second flow of oil through a valve known as the blowout preventer, BP's managing director Bob Dudley said on CNN.

"By the end of the month, we are engineering a completely separate system that will make it more storm proof with a free standing riser that would allow for quick disconnects if needed," he said.

Tuesday's official start of the hurricane season has worsened the outlook for residents in Louisiana and the neighboring states of Alabama and Mississippi, with a widespread fishing ban in place and tourists numbers down.

Two deep relief wells being drilled by BP into the seabed to plug the leak permanently, will not be ready until August.

An estimated 12,000 to 19,00 barrels of crude has been belching daily into Gulf waters since the explosion ripped through the Deepwater Horizon rig and sank it two days later.

Eleven workers were killed, and more than 20 million gallons of oil is estimated to have flooded into the Gulf.

BP has tried -- and failed -- several times in the past six weeks to cap the leak through various methods, triggering mounting anger as oil washes up on the Gulf shores, threatening rare animal and plant life.

US officials said so far 29 dead dolphins and 227 sea turtles had been collected in the southern states, which is above average for the time of year -- with at least one of each species having visible signs of oil.

"The deaths of dolphins and sea turtles are particularly tragic, because we know we are only seeing the tip of the iceberg with those that have been washed up onshore and tested," said Doug Inkley, senior scientist at the National Wildlife Federation.

"Dolphins are unique among wildlife because of their intelligence and the trust they put into people, often wanting to play in the wake of our boats. Obviously, we broke that trust," he added in a statement.

Obama delivered his threat of legal action after meeting former senator Bob Graham and former Environmental Protection Agency administrator William Reilly, who will co-chair a presidential commission into the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

"If the laws on our books are insufficient to prevent such a spill, the laws must change," Obama said, in a statement in the White House Rose Garden.

"If oversight was inadequate to enforce these laws, oversight has to be reformed."

Top White House energy advisor Carole Browner warned again Tuesday that US officials are bracing for a worst-case scenario, amid warnings that the 2010 storm season will be more than active than normal with up to 14 hurricanes.
 
A don't remember the Americans being so brutal over the exxon valdez oil spill.
 
Well in my opinion, there's accidents (like spilling coffee on your carpet) and you say oh feck....and then there's accidents that cause an environmental disaster that nobody knows what to do with or how to fix it....like this oil spill. So I think it's a bit more serious than saying ffs it was just an accident - well for me whoever responsible for an accident of this magnitude should be held accountable A) to make an example and B) to make sure this doesn't happen again. As I say imo there's a rather large difference between simple accidents and outright calamities. And for me this environmental catastrophe falls well and truly into the latter.
 
I am now beginning to to think that Obama is full of Sh*t all he talks about is litigation like all Yanks their country is based on it, it was his banks that sunk the world economy to it knees with their sub-prime worthlesss mortgages.
Yep he is now a complete T**ser !!
They want their cheap oil and will not drill for it on much of their own land so thats why its offshore and miles below the sea! so again they are the instruments of their own doom !
 
it's just an excuse to make him look like less off a c*nt. :Clap: like he hasn't got any ties to BP.
 
Im sure this platform was run on behalf of BP BY Americans!!
 
Everything on that rig was by Americans from the drilling to to the maintenance.

Then they can sue themselves!, It is sad to see the BP stock price decimated like it is, we all in this country have ties to it by way of pension funds who invest in BP so we all lose.
Again Obama is full of Sh**t.

What he does is play the blame game no support for BP just beating them with a big stick, what a C**t
 
Then they can sue themselves!, It is sad to see the BP stock price decimated like it is, we all in this country have ties to it by way of pension funds who invest in BP so we all lose.
Again Obama is full of Sh**t.

What he does is play the blame game no support for BP just beating them with a big stick, what a C**t

Its owned by BP so they will sue the company. its a win win for them.
 
BP's $20 billion spill fund echoes in Bhopal justice cry

Thu, Jun 17 05:00 PM

BP's $20 billion spill fund echoes in Bhopal justice cry - Yahoo! India News

Enlarge Photo A child wearing a mask holds a banner in front of a burring mock pyre... Indian activists seeking justice in the Bhopal gas tragedy, the world's worst industrial disaster, are accusing the United States of "double standards", saying it was punishing firms polluting American soil but ignoring their mistakes abroad.

The Obama administration on Wednesday pushed oil giants BP Plc to agree a $20 billion fund to pay damages for a massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico that has threatened fishing and tourism and killed birds and marine life.

That fund has ignited calls in India for Washington to show similar accountability for U.S. firm Union Carbide. Its Indian factory in Bhopal leaked a poisonous gas 26 years ago, killing 3,500 people.

Activists say 25,000 people died in the immediate aftermath and ensuing years. Former chairman of Union Carbide, Warren Anderson, who lives in the United States, has been classified as an absconder in the case by an Indian court.

The first convictions in the disaster came this month, a quarter century late, partly due to India's slow-moving justice system. The verdict -- 2 years jail and small fines for Union Carbide's seven Indian employees -- has sparked outrage in India.

Activists of Bhopal Group for Information and Action (BGIA) said on Thursday while BP Plc was made to set up a damage claims fund within two months of the oil spill, victims of the Bhopal disaster have had no "real justice".

"You (Obama) hold the corporate accountable in your country but why is it that you are not holding American companies responsible for what they do abroad?" BGIA's Rachna Dhingra said.

"If this is not double standards, what is?" she told Reuters.

Activists have called on the Obama administration to ensure more compensation for the victims and cleanup of the Bhopal site.

Dow Chemical , which owns Union Carbide, denies any responsibility saying it bought the company a decade after Union Carbide had settled its liabilities with the Indian government in 1989 by paying $470 million for the victims.



"SHARE THE PAIN"

Activists and health workers say 100,000 people who were exposed to the gas continue to suffer today.

Sicknesses range from cancer, blindness, respiratory difficulties immune and neurological disorders, female reproductive disorders as well as birth defects among children.

"My only request to the U.S. government is that as they are learning from their pain, they should share that pain and understand the pain of other countries," Sunita Narain, head of New Delhi-based Centre for Science and Environment said.

While the "very light punishment" in the Bhopal case has become a lightning rod for calls to reform the country's judicial system, it has also led to calls to inquire into how Anderson was able to leave India and charges of political conspiracy.

India's Congress party, which heads the ruling coalition, faces potential embarrassment in the case as the party was in power when the accident happened.

In the light of public outrage after the verdict, the government has set up a ministerial panel to look into issues of compensation, justice and pursuing the extradition of Anderson.
 
Fit to Post: Yahoo! India News » Blog Archive The Big Story – Bhopal Tragedy Verdict «

The Big Story – Bhopal Tragedy Verdict
By Vox Purpli - YahooINEditors – June 7th,

Jun 21: Bhopal victims demonstrate in front of MHA

Jun 21: Rs 1,500 crore package for Bhopal gas victims

Jun 16: A TV Channel reproduces sound bytes of former Union Carbide Chief Warren Anderson recorded after the tragedy in Dec 1984, saying, “I am free to go home”

Jun 15: Bhopal gas case: Former DGP removed from govt post

Jun 13: Bhopal victims reach out to Obama, request him to extradite ‘Carbide Killer’ Warren Anderson to India.

Jun12, 1:15 pm: Former CJI Ahmadi has said that he doesn’t want to be drawn in to a blame game now.

Jun12, 1:09 pm: Law Minister Veerappa Moily blames the judiciary in the Bhopal Gas Tragedy case.

Jun12, 12:30 pm: The U.S. has offered to “carefully evaluate” India’s request on Warren Anderson’s extradition. In the meantime, Anderson’s wife Lillian Anderson has also broken her silence on the issue.

Jun12, 12:00 pm: In the latest fallout of the Bhopal Gas Tragedy verdict, reports suggest that the central government at that time headed by Rajiv Gandhi may be responsible for Anderson’s release. The Congress in turn is trying to defend its position and is looking at legal options to reopen the case.

Jun12, 11:30 pm: Facing severe criticism for the 1996 Bhopal Gas Tragedy verdict, Justice Ahmadi has offered his resignation.

Jun8,12.08p.m: The US today ruled out a probe against Union Carbide for the Bhopal gas tragedy, but hopes the judgement will not affect its ties with India.

The Bhopal Gas Tragedy verdict is out. It took 25 years to convict eight persons, with a possible jail sentence of a maximum of just two years. In the judgement delivered by Chief Judicial Magistrate Mohan P Tiwari, pronounced the verdict in a packed court room convicting 85-year-old Mahindra, the non-executive former Chairman of UCIL, and seven others including Vijay Gokhle, the then Managing Director of UCIL, Kishore Kamdar, the then Vice President, J N Mukund, the then Works Manager, S P Choudhary, the then Production Manager, K V Shetty, the then Plant Superintendent and S I Quereshi, the then Production Assistant.

They were held guilty under Sections 304-A (causing death by negligence), 304-II (culpable homicide not amounting to murder) and 336, 337 and 338 (gross negligence) of the Indian Penal Code. Former Chief Justice of India K G Balakrishnan who just took over as the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) believes the verdict on the Bhopal gas tragedy has “come late“.

Here’s UCIL’s statement on the court decision.

On December 3, 1984, the extremely toxic methyl isocyanate started leaking from the Union Carbide plant in Bhopal, from the Indian state of Madhya Pradesh. Close to 800,000 people were exposed to the deadly gas with Union Carbide saying that 3,800 people died and thousands other became disabled, with many dying thereafter.

The Bhopal gas leak is one of the worst industrial disasters in history. It demonstrates what can happen when safety measures are overlooked. The prime accused, the Union Carbide Corporation CEO Warren Anderson has however not been convicted and named an absconder. Warren was arrested in 1984 after the tragedy but bailed himself out and fled the country. There has been no effort to extradite him. Here’s what the Attorney general of India, Soli Sorabjee had to say on Warren’s extradition. Reports now say the former CBI officer BR Lall got a letter from the government asking him not to pursue Warren.

Twenty five years on, this lethal disaster still sees protests, even with people pouring into Delhi on hunger strikes but with no one to help them; after all, these are people with no real power. Despite the years having passed by and the convictions, Bhopal still remains a continuing tragedy. Recent soil and groundwater samples taken near the Union Carbide India Limited site and in the surrounding areas still show a plethora of poison. In fact, the then repository of chemical sludge from the pesticide plant is now a pond where slum children play and dogs swim on hot afternoons.

Two photographers, Pablo Bartholomew and Raghu Rai were present and took photos of this disaster; including one where someone was burying their loved one that went on to win the 1984 World Press Photo of the Year. Narrating the incident, Aziza Sultan, a Bhopal resident remembers the following “At about 12.30 am I woke to the sound of Ruby coughing badly. The room was not dark, there was a street light nearby. In the half light I saw that the room was filled with a white cloud. I heard a great noise of people shouting. They were yelling ‘bhaago, bhaago’ (run, run). Mohsin started coughing too and then I started coughing with each breath seeming as if we were breathing in fire…”

The harrowing and grim stories of survivors and activists have been told across the world, even as the government and industry continue to fight over who the onus lies on, how much was enough compensation and how the same would be disbursed. The victims continued to suffer and have not been duly compensated for till date. Demands for rehabilitation and medical care have also fallen on deaf ears as did a review of their problems.

The Bhopal gas tragedy has turned out to be a study in contrast between humanity and human rights. Here’s what’s happened till date:

June 7, 2010: The verdict: Eight persons comprising the Indian management of UCIL convicted; Warren Anderson not named.

June 7, 2010: After more than 25 years, the judgement against the nine accused in the Bhopal gas tragedy is due.

2004: Supreme Court orders government to pay out rest of $ 470 million paid by Union Carbide as compensation.

2001: Union Carbide refuses to take responsibility for former Indian arm’s liabilities.

1992: Part of $ 470 million disbursed among victims. Anderson declared fugitive from law for ignoring court summons.

1989: Indian government and Union Carbide strike out-of-court deal, Union Carbide gives $ 470 million.

1985: India claims $3.3 billion from Union Carbide in an American court.

Dec 4, 1984: A case is registered against Union Carbide. The chairman Warren Anderson is arrested but later released on bail by the Madhya Pradesh police.

Dec 3, 1984: Union Carbide India Ltd’s (UCIL) pesticide plant in Bhopal releases Methyl isocyanate. Around 800, 000 people exposed to the gas. According to government estimates, 15000 people died. Others passed on the harmful effects of the gas, genetically.

A more detailed timeline here.

Many books, including Five Past Midnight in Bhopal have been written about this tragedy; there are several reports and studies on it; events being undertaken like this bus tour to focus attention on the magnitude of suffering and even a film featuring Mischa Barton, Kal Penn and Martin Sheen who plays the role of the ex-CEO of the Union Carbide plant, Warren Anderson. But the question is, has Indian learnt any lessons? And does the verdict do any justice to the ill-fated victims, those nameless and voiceless thousands, who are no more? These and several other frequently asked questions.

(Follow us for updates on the tragedy, 25 years on)
 
Fit to Post: Yahoo! India News » Blog Archive The Big Story – Bhopal TragedyÂ*Verdict «

The Big Story – Bhopal Tragedy Verdict
By Vox Purpli - YahooINEditors – June 7th,

Jun 21: Bhopal victims demonstrate in front of MHA

Jun 21: Rs 1,500 crore package for Bhopal gas victims

Jun 16: A TV Channel reproduces sound bytes of former Union Carbide Chief Warren Anderson recorded after the tragedy in Dec 1984, saying, “I am free to go home”
Jun 15: Bhopal gas case: Former DGP removed from govt post

Jun 13: Bhopal victims reach out to Obama, request him to extradite ‘Carbide Killer’ Warren Anderson to India.

Jun12, 1:15 pm: Former CJI Ahmadi has said that he doesn’t want to be drawn in to a blame game now.

Jun12, 1:09 pm: Law Minister Veerappa Moily blames the judiciary in the Bhopal Gas Tragedy case.

Jun12, 12:30 pm: The U.S. has offered to “carefully evaluate” India’s request on Warren Anderson’s extradition. In the meantime, Anderson’s wife Lillian Anderson has also broken her silence on the issue.

Jun12, 12:00 pm: In the latest fallout of the Bhopal Gas Tragedy verdict, reports suggest that the central government at that time headed by Rajiv Gandhi may be responsible for Anderson’s release. The Congress in turn is trying to defend its position and is looking at legal options to reopen the case.

Jun12, 11:30 pm: Facing severe criticism for the 1996 Bhopal Gas Tragedy verdict, Justice Ahmadi has offered his resignation.

Jun8,12.08p.m: The US today ruled out a probe against Union Carbide for the Bhopal gas tragedy, but hopes the judgement will not affect its ties with India.

The Bhopal Gas Tragedy verdict is out. It took 25 years to convict eight persons, with a possible jail sentence of a maximum of just two years. In the judgement delivered by Chief Judicial Magistrate Mohan P Tiwari, pronounced the verdict in a packed court room convicting 85-year-old Mahindra, the non-executive former Chairman of UCIL, and seven others including Vijay Gokhle, the then Managing Director of UCIL, Kishore Kamdar, the then Vice President, J N Mukund, the then Works Manager, S P Choudhary, the then Production Manager, K V Shetty, the then Plant Superintendent and S I Quereshi, the then Production Assistant.

They were held guilty under Sections 304-A (causing death by negligence), 304-II (culpable homicide not amounting to murder) and 336, 337 and 338 (gross negligence) of the Indian Penal Code. Former Chief Justice of India K G Balakrishnan who just took over as the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) believes the verdict on the Bhopal gas tragedy has “come late“.

Here’s UCIL’s statement on the court decision.

On December 3, 1984, the extremely toxic methyl isocyanate started leaking from the Union Carbide plant in Bhopal, from the Indian state of Madhya Pradesh. Close to 800,000 people were exposed to the deadly gas with Union Carbide saying that 3,800 people died and thousands other became disabled, with many dying thereafter.

The Bhopal gas leak is one of the worst industrial disasters in history. It demonstrates what can happen when safety measures are overlooked. The prime accused, the Union Carbide Corporation CEO Warren Anderson has however not been convicted and named an absconder. Warren was arrested in 1984 after the tragedy but bailed himself out and fled the country. There has been no effort to extradite him. Here’s what the Attorney general of India, Soli Sorabjee had to say on Warren’s extradition. Reports now say the former CBI officer BR Lall got a letter from the government asking him not to pursue Warren.

Twenty five years on, this lethal disaster still sees protests, even with people pouring into Delhi on hunger strikes but with no one to help them; after all, these are people with no real power. Despite the years having passed by and the convictions, Bhopal still remains a continuing tragedy. Recent soil and groundwater samples taken near the Union Carbide India Limited site and in the surrounding areas still show a plethora of poison. In fact, the then repository of chemical sludge from the pesticide plant is now a pond where slum children play and dogs swim on hot afternoons.

Two photographers, Pablo Bartholomew and Raghu Rai were present and took photos of this disaster; including one where someone was burying their loved one that went on to win the 1984 World Press Photo of the Year. Narrating the incident, Aziza Sultan, a Bhopal resident remembers the following “At about 12.30 am I woke to the sound of Ruby coughing badly. The room was not dark, there was a street light nearby. In the half light I saw that the room was filled with a white cloud. I heard a great noise of people shouting. They were yelling ‘bhaago, bhaago’ (run, run). Mohsin started coughing too and then I started coughing with each breath seeming as if we were breathing in fire…”

The harrowing and grim stories of survivors and activists have been told across the world, even as the government and industry continue to fight over who the onus lies on, how much was enough compensation and how the same would be disbursed. The victims continued to suffer and have not been duly compensated for till date. Demands for rehabilitation and medical care have also fallen on deaf ears as did a review of their problems.

The Bhopal gas tragedy has turned out to be a study in contrast between humanity and human rights. Here’s what’s happened till date:

June 7, 2010: The verdict: Eight persons comprising the Indian management of UCIL convicted; Warren Anderson not named.

June 7, 2010: After more than 25 years, the judgement against the nine accused in the Bhopal gas tragedy is due.

2004: Supreme Court orders government to pay out rest of $ 470 million paid by Union Carbide as compensation.

2001: Union Carbide refuses to take responsibility for former Indian arm’s liabilities.

1992: Part of $ 470 million disbursed among victims. Anderson declared fugitive from law for ignoring court summons.

1989: Indian government and Union Carbide strike out-of-court deal, Union Carbide gives $ 470 million.

1985: India claims $3.3 billion from Union Carbide in an American court.

Dec 4, 1984: A case is registered against Union Carbide. The chairman Warren Anderson is arrested but later released on bail by the Madhya Pradesh police.

Dec 3, 1984: Union Carbide India Ltd’s (UCIL) pesticide plant in Bhopal releases Methyl isocyanate. Around 800, 000 people exposed to the gas. According to government estimates, 15000 people died. Others passed on the harmful effects of the gas, genetically.

A more detailed timeline here.

Many books, including Five Past Midnight in Bhopal have been written about this tragedy; there are several reports and studies on it; events being undertaken like this bus tour to focus attention on the magnitude of suffering and even a film featuring Mischa Barton, Kal Penn and Martin Sheen who plays the role of the ex-CEO of the Union Carbide plant, Warren Anderson. But the question is, has Indian learnt any lessons? And does the verdict do any justice to the ill-fated victims, those nameless and voiceless thousands, who are no more? These and several other frequently asked questions.

(Follow us for updates on the tragedy, 25 years on)
 
well if i was BP i would say "FU america suck my black stuff"
they oughta work on stopping this leak spill what ever it is before blaming
anyone its wildlife thats dying not people (other than the ones on the rig)
 
Oh dear now look what's happened.

Oil gushes unchecked after BP submarine accident - Yahoo! News

The cap had been siphoning away some 25,000 barrels of oil each day, and removing that capacity would leave between 35,000 and 60,000 barrels of crude flowing directly into the sea, according to the latest US government estimates.

Seems the yanks can't do any better either. Crash the sub and two people die on Bob Dudley's 1st day.

Notice that part is interesting though:

Completing a disastrous start for Dudley, Allen said two people involved in the clean-up efforts had been reported dead.

One was killed in what he described as "an accident regarding a swimming pool," but no details were provided about the death of the second individual, who had been working off the Mississippi shore.

No details on the second one. Probably because of the Corexit dispersant they are pumping to break up the oil flow...its more toxic than the damn oil they are trying to break up.
 
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