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silverdale

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Got a letter through regarding having a new smart meter installed. When we moved into the property were in now it had EON and British gas both a key and a card meter and to be frank , it works for us. We have always kept them both topped up at the local Spar shop.

After ringing EON they said they can put both a electric and a gas smart meter in if we switch our gas over to them otherwise it will only the electric meter they swap out.

I ran checks on the comparison and there's hardly anything in the gas usage for the amount we used in the past 12 months, I think it was £9. We only have the combi water/heating on gas everything else is electric.

Is it worth me moving over so both are on smart meters or just have the electric meter swapped out ?. Am I right in saying I will save on standing charges when their combined ? . Help needed I'm sh!t with utility bills
 

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Im getting one on Tuesday next week , only electric as no gas in Village, (oil central heating here)only took two years to get the appointment after they initially contacted me wanting to install as its a two man job, health and safety etc cause the current meter is on the wall above six feet, Needs two men , one to hold step ladder. As to being cheaper I dont know but no more estimated bills so no more of them having sometimes £150 of my money throughout the year
 

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My mother had one for months but switched back, she was paying MORE !!!!!

I'm not having one, it's US who are paying for the fookers not them !!!
 

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My mother had one for months but switched back, she was paying MORE !!!!!

I'm not having one, it's US who are paying for the fookers not them !!!
How do we pay for it ? please explain, like I said it confuses me all this utility swap and changing. My standard tariff will be the same as before so as long as it has the same amount of credit on when it's swapped out I can't see how I will pay more.
 

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How do we pay for it ? please explain, like I said it confuses me all this utility swap and changing. My standard tariff will be the same as before so as long as it has the same amount of credit on when it's swapped out I can't see how I will pay more.
There is a 'resistance to SMART METERS' group on Facebook, they have published the public records of the costs of installing these meters and it's in the region of 10 million, this cost is being passed onto the customer, i am not stating you directly pay more, you may or may not...I am able to read 4 or 5 digits myself and update online when i receive my bill, takes 5 mins, i'm happy with that.
 

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prepaid key or card meter are usually more expensive you can save a bit paying by direct debit but that still takes a meter change not sure if they would do it though keeping my old setup as long as i can as cheap as chips with a tweak lol
 

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ummm my kWh rate is the same, the only difference is the direct debit but I would save £30 a year paperless dual fuel.
 

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@silverdale

if I was you and on prepayment meters and you have the choice to have smart meters put in free of charge I would tbh ....

and then join here .. Cheap Energy Club: Log in

do a comparison see if you can save more than £30 a year by going paperless. you could even get £30 cashback for switching to a cheaper tariff :)

if you wait till September the club will be doing another collective switch so should be even cheaper than if you switch now.

a collative switch means that MSE puts out a tender to the energy companies and who bids the cheapest price for energy.
the club has over 2 million member so you can see the bargaining power MSE has :)

welcome to cheaper bills :)
 
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As off yet no hacks for these ive heard of .
Sticking with me old one, till ime pushed into it ...............Paul
 

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I had a call yesterday from EDF saying that they wanted to book an appointment to swap my Meter. I told them I was not interested in one. He ignored me. I get suspicious of motives when people avoid questions. I then told him that I was no longer with them. But he was quite adamant that I was. I left EDF energy over a year ago and joined Extra energy. My bills are 25 odd percent less with no change to usage habits. So naturally, I am a bit annoyed with them as have been charging us more then they could have done. Over 10 years, that is over £1000.

Anyway,
What in it for them with Smart meters? (No need to employ people to read meters is one).
Requesting for a meter sap costs the user money, so why are they proactively swapping meters which are within the life expectancy of meters?
What are the pros?
What are the cons?
Do we have a choice?
 

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I had a call yesterday from EDF saying that they wanted to book an appointment to swap my Meter. I told them I was not interested in one. He ignored me. I get suspicious of motives when people avoid questions. I then told him that I was no longer with them. But he was quite adamant that I was. I left EDF energy over a year ago and joined Extra energy. My bills are 25 odd percent less with no change to usage habits. So naturally, I am a bit annoyed with them as have been charging us more then they could have done. Over 10 years, that is over £1000.

Anyway,
What in it for them with Smart meters? (No need to employ people to read meters is one).
Requesting for a meter sap costs the user money, so why are they proactively swapping meters which are within the life expectancy of meters?
What are the pros?
What are the cons?
Do we have a choice?
My parents had booked one to be fitted and I told them to cancel it. It's obvious what uses the most electricity anyway, just look for things with big elements in them. Things like modern TVs and fridges draw nothing compared to older units.

It costs over £400 to supply and fit a smart meter apparently.

Some smart meters which have been fitted are incompatible and have to be changed to work with a new supplier (1.5 million smart meters won't work when you switch energy supplier - Telegraph).

One of the questions you get asked is "Does anyone in the house rely on life support or powered medical devices?", something like that anyway. I've not seen inside a UK smart meter yet but I suspect there will be a solenoid activated contactor in there to cut you off remotely via GSM if payment fails. Otherwise they could be used for load shedding when demand becomes too high.

Here's a contactor inside one from elsewhere: YouTube
 

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Personally I hate the idea of these meters .These smart asses no when you are in and when you are on holiday just by looking at your meter usage. My advice is don't change. Let's read some other opinions now.
 

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Do we have a choice?
We do have a choice mate. You don't have to have them!

I've told people who I know not to get them as it will be the customer that will have to foot the bill some where along the line whether you want to or not.

At the end of the day yes, you can see how much you use in money terms but is it going to stop you using anything. If you have an appliance then your going to use it regardless and surely common sense would tell you whether it will use a lot of energy or not.

As miggy has said an all its just another way to monitor you.