i,ve updated both my boxes,both bought at the same time from one supplier back in november,,,funny thing is one box updated ok with expiry date 12th november,,but the other box is showing up a blue login message with date 15th june and saying not registered ( meaning expired and passed the date ),how can that be 2 boxes to diffrent dates,i have read and heard sv want to sub to get channels,via paypal and send them payment to SVTEAM***,does this not leave a paper trail and with your details,except a knock on the door,i will not be sending any payment to them via paypal,use the other box untils it last then get rid off them,,they say you get 12 months load off c*ck,just another way to get you money.box not even lasted 6 months