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Motoring 'cheaper than in 1988'

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The cost of motoring has fallen by 18% in real terms over the past 20 years, despite the price of fuel rising by 210% in that time, an RAC report says.

The motoring group takes inflation into account and says cars are now cheaper overall and need less money spent on them than they did two decades ago.

But 60% of 1,116 people surveyed actually thought higher costs were the biggest change in motoring since 1988.

The RAC's 20th Report on Motoring also reflects on the "menace" of road rage.

'Downright dangerous'

The report says roads have become more crowded and drivers angrier since 1988. This worrying behaviour becomes downright dangerous when you consider they are behind the wheel of a tonne-and-a-half of metal

Adrian Tink, RAC

Nearly a third of those surveyed said they had been victims of road rage which had left them feeling physically threatened.

Half of them also admitted having sworn, gestured rudely and shouted at other drivers.

The RAC said motorists who did not control their tempers were a "menace" to others on the road.

RAC motoring strategist Adrian Tink said: "It is worrying that millions of motorists are victims of a driving behaviour [road rage] that didn't even have a name 20 years ago.

"This worrying behaviour becomes downright dangerous when you consider they are behind the wheel of a tonne-and-a-half of metal."

ROAD SURVEY DATA
Some 92% believe we are more reliant on our cars than in 1988
Of all households, 75% have a car, while seven out of 10 British adults carry a licence
The number of households with a car has gone from 14m in 1988 to 19.5m - an increase of 39%
Local speed limits of 30mph are accepted by 66% of drivers, but over half want to see motorway limits raised from 70mph to 80mph
The number of women drivers on UK roads has gone from 10.2m to 15.3m
Source: RAC Report on Motoring

The RAC report suggests that road rage and inconsiderate driving are seen as more of a nuisance by motorists than congestion.

Even so, more than half of drivers think Britain's roads will be gridlocked in the next 20 years - despite the average annual mileage of British drivers dropping from 10,200 in 1988 to 9,070 in 2008.

The vast majority (92%) of those surveyed said Britain was a car-dependent society, and more than seven out of 10 drivers said they would find it very difficult to cope without a car.

A third of motorists said they went on shorter journeys than they did 20 years ago, but 9% of drivers said they never walked anywhere.

The report also discloses that three in four of those surveyed want the legal drink-drive limit to be cut.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7496381.stm
 

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I think this is rubbish.

Vehicles take a bigger percentage of your monthly pay now than 20 years ago.

Statistics eh!!!!
 
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I think this is rubbish.

Vehicles take a bigger percentage of your monthly pay now than 20 years ago.

Statistics eh!!!!
well, its the fuel that costs more - and the price of fuel is volatile. No doubt, if the same research took place in 12 months time, the cost would be greater than the results in this report.

Basically, cars and their maintenance are now a hell of a lot cheaper - its just the fuel that costs a packet.

In another 20 years time, I would imagine that the price will be greater than it is now, as more tax is applied to gas-guzzlers and more urban centers adopt congestion charging.

Perhaps now was the wrong time for the RAC to publish their results?
 

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Basically, cars and their maintenance are now a hell of a lot cheaper
Can't see how, 20 years ago cars mechanics were a lot basic than today and a cheap socket set from halfords would do for most cars. These days each manufacturer has its owned specialized tools so joe Bloggs can't fix his own car, There are more complicated electronics these days as well which cost a bomb to replace like ECU's. Even things like catalytic converters have driven up the cost
 

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Do they really expect us to swallow this. The RAC talk nonsense, try to find someone that has something positive to say about them, now theres a great quiz
 

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I think that the cost of fuel nowadays is clouding the issue here. I bought my first car 38 years ago. It needed servicing every 3000 miles!!!! Taking fuel out of the equation, it was definately much more expensive to own a car than it is today. Very few families could afford to run two cars, a fairly common thing now. Cars were also much less fuel efficient.

The RAC has also been lobbying the Government for years about the high taxes on fuel. It's hardly likely to be publishing false information to weaken its case.
 
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Can't see how, 20 years ago cars mechanics were a lot basic than today and a cheap socket set from halfords would do for most cars. These days each manufacturer has its owned specialized tools so joe Bloggs can't fix his own car, There are more complicated electronics these days as well which cost a bomb to replace like ECU's. Even things like catalytic converters have driven up the cost
you may be right, but things like ECU's have been around for over 20 years. I am not totally sure on this, but I think the availability of generic parts may have something to do with the lower cost of maintenance.
 

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you may be right, but things like ECU's have been around for over 20 years..
Never found one in my ford escort or TR7

Very few families could afford to run two cars, a fairly common thing now.
I certainly cannot afford to run 2 cars, wish I could as having one car causes problems with logistics of getting to work, school runs. kids activites etc...
 

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This story supposedly take into account the inflation rates. Everybody knows or should know that the real inflation rate in any given year is always higher than the official rates.

Cars are more efficient now but when they do need repairs it costs a bloody fortune.

Also when selling your car these days there's hardly any money in it.

Parking is much more expensive. Park at a railway station, see how much change you get from £60 a month.

I hate these sort of stories, it makes the government think they are justified in raising taxes.
 
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just out of interest, what year escort and tr7 do you have? Also, do you own both right now?
 
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This story supposedly take into account the inflation rates. Everybody knows or should know that the real inflation rate in any given year is always higher than the official rates.

Cars are more efficient now but when they do need repairs it costs a bloody fortune.

Also when selling your car these days there's hardly any money in it.

Parking is much more expensive. Park at a railway station, see how much change you get from £60 a month.

I hate these sort of stories, it makes the government think they are justified in raising taxes.
yeah, but this report came from the RAC - not the government.
 

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feck all, they changed a wheel for my missus a few years ago only for it to come off 2 days later

As for the main topic I agree with pipsqueaker
Yes mate. Two windscreens they replaced for me in 1 year. Both leaked and on one the rubber seal blew off on the motorway.
 

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just out of interest, what year escort and tr7 do you have? Also, do you own both right now?
both long gone lol, both around 1977-78

another example.....

Last month my wipers pack up so I check the fuses etc all ok so it goes of to the stealers, turns out the the wiper motor has packed up plus they wouldn't guarantee it unless the linkage was changed as well because on my model it is well known for linkage seizing up. Motor £250, Linage £230 + 3 hours labour about £270. 10 years ago I would have bought a motor for £50 and changed it myself
 

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just out of interest, what year escort and tr7 do you have? Also, do you own both right now?
I don't think we need to get into specifics here. You either believe the report or you don't. End of. There's no point in arguing the toss.

Based on my experience, I'm inclined to believe the figures. Others won't.
 

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both long gone lol, both around 1977-78

another example.....

Last month my wipers pack up so I check the fuses etc all ok so it goes of to the stealers, turns out the the wiper motor has packed up plus they wouldn't guarantee it unless the linkage was changed as well because on my model it is well known for linkage seizing up. Motor £250, Linage £230 + 3 hours labour about £270. 10 years ago I would have bought a motor for £50 and changed it myself
It's certainly true that a Do-it-yourselfer will find it more expensive. There's so little you can touch in an engine compartment these days without access to diagnostics.
 

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Never found one in my ford escort or TR7
from the mid 80s the escort had an timing module, my 82 sierra also had one, i know this as i had to change one on both cars, infact the sierra i changed it to a normal dizzy as the modules were to expensive to replace at the time.
i agree that motoring has become more affordable, we run 3 cars between the two of us (one classic). going back just 15years back this wouldnt have been possible. the cost of fuel is astomically high and this on its own is making ppl think that the cost are higher. example, in 93 the cost of a tax disk was about £150, now its £195, my wages back then was around 6-7k now its over 40k - the average wage is around 25k now i think back in 93 it was about 10 (so its about double but the tax is not double the amount atm). Also the cost of buying a brand new car hasnt risen at all, infact i hear that they have actually become cheaper, servicing intervals are longer and parts are easier to get hold of, insurance is also pretty damn cheap if you think about it, (ok maybe not for our younger friends but for the older person its defo excellent deal). my insurance hasnt risen at all in about ten years. recovery has defo become cheaper, im with the rac and years back i remember paying about £150 per year membership, now i pay about £90 for family membership which covers 5 drivers.
 
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dont most new cars come with a generous warranty period, as well as free insurance and tax? That may count towards this also.