guys i dont know if anyone has had a prob yet but im told by my m8 who works for ntl that they are turning off the boxes very shortly in all areas apparently they have done london and supposedly wales and the excw area is next,personally i cant see how they can bcos all rented boxes will go down as well has anyone had a prob yet in any of these areas or is it the fun 4 and atmega cards they are doing i wouldnt mind feedback on this one,i wouldnt of posted this if i didnt think it to be a good source of info i would like to hear anyone response here as to what you think or how you feel they may be able to turn off the boxes if at all cheers guys look forward to hearing your replys