is 128kps = to 44.1khz

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one of my dj players only works with 44.1 mps i have converted some files to 128kps should these not end up at 44.1khz

some are not

whats the best setting to guarantee this
 
thanks ian looks interesting (you dont know of a full copy by any chance)
 
Allroad,

There are loads of varying factors, the sample rate which is the 44,1 kHz, this is the samples per second as its frequency (Cycles per second) (time). 41.1 kHz is CD quality.

Assuming you are using 16 bit stereo you can calculate the resulting bit rate for the track (time). EG 16 x 2 x 44100 = 1411200 bits per second. However this is the raw file.
As an MP3 is compressed and you are thinking of 128kbs so 1411200/128000 = 11:1

I would think the reason you are getting variable sample rates because some files maybe ripped a VBR files.
 
could be m8 but i need all files to be 44.1 whats the best way to ensure this then
 
I think the only way is to find some software to resample them to the desired sample rate, by way of reading back. The downside is that you may/will loose some quality.

I used to use Goldwave in the past, that used to be quite versatile :)
 
Encode them at what ever rate you like, I always prefer 320, as it contains the most sample for a given rate.
 
You will have to use some software to resample to the required sample rate.

in essence you will be converting one mp3 to another mp3 with differing attributes.
 
Hi Allroad theres Jet Audio i have been using this for years you will find it on fosis apps or ill upload for u on the forum you can convert all @ constant bit rate 128 44.1 , its also converts video, flav, anything to anything great bit of kit
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once its uploaded i will post on the forum
 
In the past i've had this problem, if the file is less than 44khz i think you're goosed I don't think you can convert from say 22khz back to 44khz. If its above 44khz you should beable to use a choice of encoders I use dbpower amp.
Someone may say I'm wrong, but that was my experience and I would like to no if it is possible.


looks like an intresting program biffo, i'd like it uploaded thanks.
I think I'm getting mixed up with files needed to play on audio cd.
 
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jet audio will also convert mp3 @ 1 bit rate to mp3 to another , people say you should upload all @ 320br but to the nakedd ear theres not much in it and u can save space on ya hard drive when there 128 constant bit rate, once u go to the varable bit rates sounds not as good.
 
a couple of apps that will do what you want

adobe audition 3 and fairstars audio converter


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fairstars is a easy util that allows batch processing , check one file is ok then put them all in, press the button and comeback sometime later and they are all done the same.

adobe audition is the db's with audio files, professional program, you can do almost anything with any type of audio file but a bit more of a learning curve as its a huge program.


just a quick thing the bit rate 128bps or 320bps sample rate is different to frequency 44.1Khz etc i think you have got a bit confused. i have cut and pasted this little article that explains it far better than i can.


On sampling rates v. bitrates...

Analog audio, e.g. sound, is a waveform. Waves of air pressure, or captured by a microphone to make an electrical signal representing the waveform.

Digital audio is an approximation made by measuring - sampling - the waveform at regular intervals. So the 'Sampling Rate' is how often the wave is measured.

Music reproduction equipment attempt to handle a range of audio frequencies from 20hz to 20,000 hz. To represent a sound you need a sampling rate at least double the frequency. Compact disc sampling is 44,100 Hz, Digital Audio Tape sampling is 48,000 Hz and are thus capable of representing 20,000 Hz signals.

A musical note is tuned on its basic frequency - its fundamental frequency. But each note has higher frequency harmonics or overtones typically multiples of the fundamental frequency.

A concert piano has notes ranging from 27 to 4,000 Hz. Human voice ranges from 80 to 1,000 Hz. But the fidelity of the sound includes capturing many of those higher harmonic frequencies as well. So you want to capture frequencies 4 times higher than the fundamental up to about 16,000 Hz which is the limit of the ears of most adults.

A telephone has a sampling rate of 8,000 Hz and thus handles sound frequencies up to 4,000 Hz. FM radio handles sound frequencies up to 15,000 Hz.

For a speech, a sampling rate of 8,000, 11,025 or 12,000 Hz should be fine. Further, the sound can be recorded as one channel Mono as opposed to Stereo for further space savings.

For singing, you want a higher sampling rate like 16,000, 22,050 or 24,000.

For instrumental music, or movie soundtracks you want at least 32,000 Hz sampling or the 44,100 or 48,000 standards.

Bit-rate, a number like 128Kb, is a different concept altogether.

A CD stores music uncompressed at a sampling rate of 44,100 Hz; a sample size of 16 bits and in stereo - 2 channels. The bitrate is 44,100 X 16 X 2 = 1,411,200 bits per second.

MP3 encoders vary in quality, but generally can produce a fair-quality representation of CD music using 128kb/s (11:1 compression ratio) and a very good representation at 320kb/s (4.4:1 compression ratio). AAC compression can produce equivalent quality with only 3/4 of the bits, so a 96kb (14.7:1) AAC file with the quality of a 128kb MP3.

The MPEG standards specify a list of bitrates, and all players should be able to handle all of them. Some MP3 encoders will allow non-standard bitrates that can make smaller files with adequate quality, but for compatability your bitrates should be on this list: 8, 16, 24, 32, 40, 48, 56, 64, 80, 96, 112, 128, 144, 160, 192, 224, 256, 320 kb/s

Standard sampling rates are: 8,000; 11,025; 12,000; 16,000; 22,050; 24,000; 32,000; 44,100; 48,000 samples per second (Hz)

Here are some typical sampling rates, their uncompressed sizes and standard mp3 bitrates that correspond to fair and very good compression ratios:

8,000 Hz, Mono = 128kb uncompressed : 8kb(16:1) to 24kb(5:1)

8,000 Hz, Stereo = 256kb 16kb(16:1) to 48kb(5:1)

22,050 Hz, Stereo = 705kb 48kb(15:1) to 144kb(5:1)

32,000 Hz, Stereo = 1mb 64kb(16:1) to 192kb(5:1)

44,100 Hz, Stereo = 1.4mb 80kb(17:1) to 320kb(4.4:1)

48,000 Hz, Stereo = 1.5mb 96kb(16:1) to 320kb(4.8:1)
 
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this was recommended by davidh many years ago when we had the hub and i have used ever since, normally for converting mp3 audibooks to m4b for the ipod.

the links for adobe audition are ok just checked them
 
cheers m8 yes the adobe ones are ok its the second link thats dead sorry for confussion
 
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