How can I clone a ROM card for PACE DiTV 2000C

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Greetings to one and all!

This is my first posting as a 'Newbie', and I'll apologise now for the length of this post but I'm trying to get all the relevant info across:

I've just got a Samsung 2110C with a married card (ROM 11) which came from a different area to mine. I also have (temporarily) a friend's PACE DiTV 2000 which has access to the PPV channels on a married card; also ROM 11. In order to 'learn' about the technology, I've obtained an Elvis 3.5 programmer with MultiProg and NagraEdit 4.0. I have tried to read both cards using NagraEdit, but the software generates an error saying it is unable to read the ATR - what's an ATR? :confused: Now, my question is this:

How can I find out whether the two ROM cards I have are locked; and if they are, how can I unlock the PACE ROM card in order to 'copy' its contents onto an image file for editing/massaging and saving onto a FUN card for test purposes? I have FUN cards 5 & 6.

It's a catch 22 situation as a newbie when your trying to read the forums for information, but are denied access because you don't have the required number of posts!

I have access to both machine's Eng Diags; I also have - I believe - the BK for the PACE & the Samsung. Any pointers in the right direction would be much appreciated. :thnks:
 
make sure you are in phoenix mode when trying to read rom11,if yes then the card maybe no good no atr means card is stuffed.

look around for funcard files v3 for the funcard,for rom11 look around for good image then make uniqe tier image for your self,some people are just using the image that is available with out any major mods to it but making your own is safer.plenty of guides about to follow for all the above cards.
 
Greetings to one and all!

This is my first posting as a 'Newbie', and I'll apologise now for the length of this post but I'm trying to get all the relevant info across:

I've just got a Samsung 2110C with a married card (ROM 11) which came from a different area to mine. I also have (temporarily) a friend's PACE DiTV 2000 which has access to the PPV channels on a married card; also ROM 11. In order to 'learn' about the technology, I've obtained an Elvis 3.5 programmer with MultiProg and NagraEdit 4.0. I have tried to read both cards using NagraEdit, but the software generates an error saying it is unable to read the ATR - what's an ATR? :confused: Now, my question is this:

How can I find out whether the two ROM cards I have are locked; and if they are, how can I unlock the PACE ROM card in order to 'copy' its contents onto an image file for editing/massaging and saving onto a FUN card for test purposes? I have FUN cards 5 & 6.

It's a catch 22 situation as a newbie when your trying to read the forums for information, but are denied access because you don't have the required number of posts!

I have access to both machine's Eng Diags; I also have - I believe - the BK for the PACE & the Samsung. Any pointers in the right direction would be much appreciated. :thnks:
well for a start the elvis wont read rom cards u will need a pheonix programmer
and yes the romcards will be locked
the relevant details u need off the cards is the ird and the bk

and yes u can program a funcard with the elvis
u say u have the ird and bk's of these boxes how?

the bk isnt on show on the boxes
to get that info u have to have for the sammy a working card that has been unlocked as for the 2000 the same unless u can remove the atmels a read them
which i beleive u cannot because u need a chip programmer for that

any more just ask
 
make sure you are in phoenix mode when trying to read rom11,if yes then the card maybe no good no atr means card is stuffed.

look around for funcard files v3 for the funcard,for rom11 look around for good image then make uniqe tier image for your self,some people are just using the image that is available with out any major mods to it but making your own is safer.plenty of guides about to follow for all the above cards.
Thanks for the quick reply thecat666!

You mention that there will be 'plenty of guides about to follow for all the above cards' namely, FUN and ROM11. Can you please keep me posted as to when I where I can view this information; and will you be posting it? Cheers! :Cheers:
 
Davidh, the advice about the programmer has saved me a lot of time and effort down the wrong path!

I had understood that although I could not write to a ROM10 or ROM11 with the Elvis, I could at least read them, thereby allowing me to save an image for writing to the FUN. Is this not the case? :confused:

Also, will the Pheonix programmer you mention be compatible with NagraEdit 4.0, or is there a particular software package that's required?

As mentioned in my initial post, I believe I have the BK for the PACE DiTV 2000 as there's an eight byte character series marked on the underside of the unit which begins: 12 ** ** DA. As the Nagra Serial code is obtainable from the Eng's Diags (also an eight byte code: 12 ** ** CF), I assumed that the code mentioned above must be the BK. Is the Nagra Serial code not another name for the IRD?

Have I misunderstood these codes then? How is the BK presented i.e. HEX, ASCII; and what data/info determines or comprises a BK string? Is the NET I.D. involved at all at this stage?

With regards to the Sammy 2110C, how do I go about checking:

a) if the ROM11 card/STB has been activated by the cc;

b) how to unlock a locked card - or does this render the card vunerable to 'zapping'?

The more answers I receive, the more questions I have!! :Sorry:
 
to read the card u need to have a phoenix compatible programmer , and nagra edit , if the card is unlocked then you will get the details from witin that , if the card is not unlocked then you will need to get the card glitched with the aid of a t911 , nexus , or u bomb , the codes that u have got that start with 12 ( strange that they are both different ) are the ird and not the bk , the bk is 16 digits/letters and is normally got by j/tag or led sim or by the means of the rom card wen unlocked
 
Davidh, the advice about the programmer has saved me a lot of time and effort down the wrong path!

I had understood that although I could not write to a ROM10 or ROM11 with the Elvis, I could at least read them, thereby allowing me to save an image for writing to the FUN. Is this not the case? :confused:

Also, will the Pheonix programmer you mention be compatible with NagraEdit 4.0, or is there a particular software package that's required?

As mentioned in my initial post, I believe I have the BK for the PACE DiTV 2000 as there's an eight byte character series marked on the underside of the unit which begins: 12 ** ** DA. As the Nagra Serial code is obtainable from the Eng's Diags (also an eight byte code: 12 ** ** CF), I assumed that the code mentioned above must be the BK. Is the Nagra Serial code not another name for the IRD?

Have I misunderstood these codes then? How is the BK presented i.e. HEX, ASCII; and what data/info determines or comprises a BK string? Is the NET I.D. involved at all at this stage?

With regards to the Sammy 2110C, how do I go about checking:

a) if the ROM11 card/STB has been activated by the cc;

b) how to unlock a locked card - or does this render the card vunerable to 'zapping'?

The more answers I receive, the more questions I have!! :Sorry:
yes the pheonix programmer will read rom cards with nagraedit
but the cards need to be unlocked

as for the 8 digit code underneath starting 12 ** ** ** this is the ird or nagra serial code


the sammy activated by the cc well it probley has but has it been turned off ??

this is the problem if it has u may not get the details off the card

but as i stated before the cards will need glitching(opening)
to be able to read the info u need

oh btw the ird and bk will be in hexadecimal


just read this the code on the bottom of the box is diff than the info in engineers menu
12 ** ** DA. As ( 12 ** ** CF), open the box and look at the scart see what number is there
but i would say the atmels have been lifted and reprogrammed
 
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