v13 the boxes are not that bad just no epg once you set all the channels into the favourites then the box runs like a wee sweetie,,,,,,doesnt freeze like the dbox
I have just got a Eurovox2. Runs really well with no freeze or stutter and the picture is near DVD quality. However, the EPG is virtually non existant, and the Channel selection is alpahbetical so Adult chanels is the first thing you see. ( not good when you have a children ).Give me a good working DBox2 anyday.!..