Thanks m8 I'll try that next. I have removed the tsop and tried to read it at my work eventually I managed to read something of the chip however, which file format should the dump be saved? The format the proggy tried to save it as did not work so I saved it as intel hex or sometninhg along that line and it saved it. The problem being the dump could not be transferred to floppy as the disc had not enough space. Are these dumps normally bigger than floppy size s this could give me problems or is it the type of file I saved it as?