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Grimeire

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What are people's thoughts on electric scooters. Many countries are trying to ban them now or bring in laws to prevent their use on public roads and foot paths. Someone died in the UK recently on one also.

In Ireland the gardai(police) are seizing them from people. It's a bit nuts in my opinion. Irish law states that anything with a motor must have tax and insurance.

I personally think anything that is green and reduces the number of cars on the road is a good thing.
 

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I think I'd feel safer on an electric bike.

I bet some sort of tax and insurance is coming up for non-person-powered transport which isn't invalid carriage registered though. Either that or they'll be made illegal, if they already aren't. Of course, ones with proper certifications and not just CE (China Engineering) will be more expensive.

A few months ago I was overtaken in a car at over 30mph by someone on a path with an old mountain bike with a small petrol engine on it. Busy road in a residential area next to a fire/police station LOL.
 

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Thats mad going over 30mph on a foot path. I seen an e-scooter on AliExpress earlier that could go over 65Km with a 100kg load on it. You shouldn't be allowed near a path with those speeds.

I think there does need to be some laws around them like speed restrictions on them and they have to use bicycle paths.

At the end of the day they aren't much more dangerous than bicycles in my book and a lot safer than those bloody scramblers I see kids flying around housing estates on.
 

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I think the problem lies in is it a toy or a actual vehicle. What I mean is, how it's powered and how fast it can go.
If it's a kids battery operated one doing say 5 10mph then that's ok. Its it's a petrol engine job doing say 40-50mph then no.
Tricky one really to suss.
 

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That's my point, if say a 10 year old is riding a little toy electric scooter that does 5 mph on the path is that right or wrong ?. For me it's about the type of scooter.
Some women around here are more dangerous on the pavements rushing to school with their prams
 

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It's the same situation as when the mini motors came out. They could do upwards of 60 kmph, and you'd be flying around on them with no helmet on dodging in and out of people. They weren't safe at all even with a helmet on.

The scooters are a little different imho. I think you should be allowed to ride them on pavements, or specified walkways. I looked at getting myself one from aliexpress, I think it was around £300. I have to agree and say they're no less dangerous than cyclists (Who iirc are also no supposed to ride on pavements), or people on their phones walking.
 

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My brother has an electric bike. I can't remember the make but was over a couple of grand and he's chipped it with an arduino to remove limiter and what I believe is some kind of cadence sensor, so now when he wants to, doesn't need to peddle and can just throttle it at speed.

I'd rather have something like that and use it sensibly than a bloody scooter. Just seems a bit more in control and responisve. You're still at the mercy of other vehicles on the road but at least you'd be more aware to them than expecting somebody on a scooter to shoot out.

I'd still stick to the road though than use a footpath...... we're not 10 years old ffs :)
 

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I converted my conventional 'mountain' bike to electric a couple of years ago. Whole kit (motorised wheel, control box & throttle for £120 off the 'well-known auction site) plus a battery (£300) from another seller. It's a 1KW motor, 48V. It will happily sit at 50km/h on the flat, I can get over 60 if I pedal like the clappers, but I wouldn't dream of doing that on a footpath.
I've taken the 1000W sticker off the motor, technically up to 250W is legal here without insurance.
 
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