hi there help needed my mate brought me his brothers and his sisters box round to me to look at .. as they both whent off at the same time. there dvb4000 the dealer who sold them at £170 a pop i may add ... has disapeared so i tried reprograming the cards atmega au ... but with no joy they just sit there saying updating ... now there from the same area as me and on my box the software as updated to p1.cr 4.12 build 1 .... and on one of there boxs it says 4.12 build 2 .... now im thinking my box updated itself no problems to 4.12 ... were as the update to 4.12 on the 2 dvb4000 hasnt took properly as its showing no channels what so ever..... this is in tw area and both boxs are tw any idears or info on how to fix this would be much apreciated ... thanks