does any body know if the new receiver gives a better picture with SD chanels coz my 500c gives very average pics on my hd tv
Is the dreambox 800 hd? Because i remember hearing it was not going to be due to licencising problems.
yes,it sends to signal over a dvi-hdmi cable that is included,which is the exact same picture quality,as a regular hdmi-hdmi cable.
It is unusuall because usually a dvi-hdmi cannot carry sound but the dreambox can carry sound over dvi.
Are you sure that it can carry sound over DVI as that does not seem correct to me
but does it allow you to view hd channels? i.e bbc hd?
Is the dreambox 800 hd? Because i remember hearing it was not going to be due to licencising problems.
HD is the picture quality.
HDMI is a digital connector standard - which as well as mandating the size, shape and electrical signals travelling over the wires also mandates that the licensed users of HDMI make signals that can be encrypted with HDCP which is a DRM system (a bit like Apple's iTunes music or MS WMV video).
Signal wise the single channel digital video on DVI and HDMI are the same I believe and certainly a simple adaptor can attach one to the other.
Even boxes with Component analog output (such as say a first gen SkyHD box) which can put HD pictures down a non HDMI lead, in order to be HDMI compliant the boxes have to be able to turn HD OFF over the non HDMI connection if the signal coming into the box has the HDCP DRM set (and there are various settings).
This means if you are watching an HD channel not through an HDMI to HDMI connector then the TV company can turn off or down the HD quality if the box is HDMI/HDCP compliant. If you are watching that channel with a non HDMI licensed receiver then as I understand it you just won't get a picture as one or other device doesn't have the HDMI HDCP encryption chips built in.
TVs with the "HD Ready" logo all have to be HDMI compliant I think.
Signal receivers without an HDMI connector almost certainly won't have the HDCP system built in though some devices such as PC video cards CAN have HDCP but still will use a DVI connector for PC not TV use, and the same issue exists there too I think for monitors to need HDCP.
The Dreambox 800 IS HD and any signal it can get that doesn't rely on HDCP will I am sure be happily shown on a connected TV. What happens when HD recordings from Dream-boxes of movies shown, say on BBC HD start appearing and the BBC is put under pressure by the movie makers to use HDCP to DRM the broadcasts is a different issue.
So... the licensing issue is probably that no-one wanted to licence their HDMI/HDCP copy protection technology to a company with a set of products which is well known for having a thriving hacker community attached.
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Are you sure that it can carry sound over DVI as that does not seem correct to me
I dont think the ap is right.
hdcp is optional on dvi,its likely they have not implimented it,they arent stupid and know exactly what the box do
also,you are watching the channels,not recording them or trying to digitally copy the information they are sending,so I dont see what hdcp has got to do with it?
This is most likely the reason they were no granted a licence to use a hdmi cable and used dvi,to curcumvent the hdcp.
X-PAC,dont worry about hdcp or anything like that,I doubt it even has it.
If you have a hd ready tv,a hd cable going to the tv from the dreambox 800 and hd channels available in your area,then you will get hd pictures.
Thanks for clearing that up, guess all ive got to do now is buy one, anyone know any good sites to get one from?
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