Right bought a box from the booty for a project as it was only £6 anyways it came with no card so im presuming ill need to jtag it to get the bk, I have been doing loads of reading and searching for what i need and found the below tutorial + OCD Commander software which im gonna post in the downloads section. All i need to no is the tutorial below ok for a 4000 t box and does the software have to be downgraded or can it be left on CR2 :Cheers: