Advice needed-path to take for Domestic Certification

lolo1

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Hi
Can please someone guide me to the best route to take for to be able to Certify Domestic Electrical Insulation. I have over the past 30 years done number of domestic rewiring in my own properties and had to get someone to certify the insulation, which was not always easy. I am apprentice trained Mechanical Engineer and spent over 25 years in the industry until it all disappeared thanks to our leaders. I retrained myself and for past few years I run a Mobile phone and PC repairs business. The business is not as good as it used be, every bright spark thinks they can do the repairs.

4 years ago I did part P examination and I was "considered" a competent person, but since the change in the law last year I have to be able to test the Insulation to be considered a competent person :Boo:. My interest is basically to do Testing on a part time basis I need the experience in testing more than Installation. Can any one suggest any course which is not too costly and will give me required experience. I am even willing to work for free if someone will give me the chance to learn testing technique.

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Br
 

Mick

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Cannot believe I missed this :(

Right lets start with the correct path that trainee electricians need to take or anyone looking to become a professional fully qualified JIB electrician.

NOTE: you do not have to be a JIB electrician to certify work, a Part P certificate will allow you to sign your works with building control.
Also becoming a member of the NICEIC, NAPIT, ELECSA, ETC (there are a good few). you will need to approach them directly to find out which qualifications they want before they will allow enrolment.

To become a fully qualified electrician from a young age or someone that wants to train the full course you can achieve it like this.

Complete Beginners Course Order of training:
LEVEL 2 City and Guilds 2365 This is usually a year course that you can take to get the starting basics
LEVEL 3 City and Guilds 2365 again another year course this is the next step up from the level 2 and will go further in depth
NVQ LEVEL 3 City and Guilds 2357 + AM2 course
This last one is exam based as well as onsite verification of your ability
Infact they are all exam and practical. It is just when you get to the AM2 part you will need to demonstrate actual work

If you are practising as an electrician but you do not have the qualifications, but you have over 5 years experience.

Experienced Electricians Order of training:
Minimum of 5 years experience as an electrician (Must be able to Prove this).
Level 3 NVQ City and Guilds 2356 + AM2

Note: you will also be assessed if you are going for the experienced route.
Its also favourable if you hold a 17th edition C&G 2382-15 and the C&G 2394 / 2395 (initial verification / Testing and inspecting).
They will probably require them, depending on your assessment that you take from above (at a minimum the 2382-15 (17th edition)).

Either of these routes on completion should give you the JIB GOLD card that is industry standard (you will take a very easy health and safety test too).

However, it is not essential to work as an electrician to have a JIB GOLD card, however it will ensure higher pay and you will show a much higher understanding of electrical work.

Personally, all practising electricians either domestic or commercial should have one (JIB GOLD CARD) this skilled/competent persons nonsense is why the industry is so cut throat and dangerous.

We have loads of electrical exam papers and study guides for anyone needing help.
SEE HERE: Electrical Exam Papers

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Mick
 
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I wish they would bring in this sort of requirements for carpentry/joinery type trades as so many cowboys around,Who does a 4 year apprenticeship today,2 years and nvqs and they are qualified.(JOKE)
 

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I agree @lescantle,

However as much as the route above is the correct process to become an electrician (and rightly so - its dangerous for both the client and the person carrying out the work).

There are loads of electricians out there with nothing but a 17th edition level 3 (2382-15), however, this is a great qualification but it just means you know how to read a book (the BS7671). clients do not know better. and builders on small sites don't know either (or want to know).

I am not knocking an experienced time served electrician with just a 17th edition - he might actually be really into his trade and reads all the forums and the books.

But until it is actually regulated properly, with visits, and fines - then all the courses in the world wont make no difference as anyone can turn up on site and start running cables. its only the end part that needs sign off from building control etc.

Mick
 
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