well that absess feels like history now, but i stuck to my guns and had my first stage of treatment today to have all my teeth removed and get dentures lol.
all of the lower left qaudrant yanked out, and now i know why they are so expensive. no pain no nothing - of course as they said it will probably be sore when the jabs wear off - but hey wtf nothing compared to the pain of an absess that makes ya look like a front runner for the next elephant man remake i'm sure (hope infact lol).
i will keep this thread posted with my exploits lmao
tbc
OMG......Mike stop there hun..........
oh how i had wished that i'd seen this thread earlier.........
you obvisouly haven't been told the after complications that can arise after having all ur teeth out.......
Im not a qualififed dentist.....but i am a qualified dental nurse.....and have done the job for 15 yrs........i've also done temping, which means i've worked with a lot of dentists.....i've also worked for years with a maxillofacial dentist who worked at the hospital repairing peeps jaws/mouths after things like motorbike crashes etc..........
this is gonna be a liitle lengthy post advising u on something the dentist obvisouly hadn't advised u about.
unless u have about only 1-2 left in the mouth,
then go for the F/F.
F/F = Full / Full denture..... P/P = Partial / Partial denture
and obvisouly no matter how many teeth u have left, if they are beyond repair....(diagnosed by dentist, not urself...lol)
search further for a NHS dentist, u don't have to live in the borough to go to a dentist, say in London etc.....
Think how much u would save by travelling an extra 20 miles etc....
there is a set maxium fee for the treatment in one course that u pay....
anyway back to basic's...lol
Have u ever noticed with old people (and i don't mean to sound rude here, but it's the easiest way to explain it) that have like, baggy faces.....around the mouth area the skin appears baggy like and saggy. The reason for this is this....when u have teeth removed the bone shrinks. It usually takes around 3-6 months for it to shrink. Mojority of old people have a F/F denture thats why they have that appearance. Dentures are hard to get along with, some peeps no matter how much they try they just can't....thus affecting everything u have to eat. If u have teeth missing already (i don't mean the quad u just had done lol) then u would be better of having a partial denture and saving the teeth that can be saved. Having teeth present will help the partial denture to stay in more firmly. I don't know what ur excact treatment plan in tails, but the way they used to do it was like to be making the denture in the process of having the teeth extraced. There are usually 3-4 appointments involved when making a denture...
1st - inpression
2nd - the moulds come back with blocks of wax on it, this to take how the patient bites
3rd - denture maked of wak with teeth in, so any adjustments that need to meade can be done so
4th - dentures returned completed. Most dentists do this as ur having teeth extracted then on ur finally vist of the last to be extracted, he will note the docket for the laborarty that this will be a F/F so it will return with all teeth on. This way u won't be left with out any teeth. That first denture will cause u nothing but soreness.....your be talking with a lisp...lol ur find it hard at first to eat anything. anyway, after having paid out for the checkup / extractions / dentures etc....u will have to go back in about 3-6 to have a reline to the dentures or properly have a complete full new set made. this costing more money. and during the process of getting used to them u will have to keep going back for what is called 'an ease' it's like wearing a brand new pair of shoes and they rubbing on the heal, so u have to go back to have a little bit taken off each time until they stop rubbing (reline is were they add on more acrylic to make them fit, this being due to where u had teeth out and the bone has shrunk and now the dentures are too big and won't stay in) which is gonna cost u even more money which ever one u have to have. Some patients i have seen would not dare take their teeth out at night....they couldn't go to bed without them in cos of husband/wife seeing them without them..yerah i know their in bed asleep. anyway they had them in for donkeys years and they'd had to be cut out.....lol so thats another thing to think about with the wife...lol all patients are advise to take them out at night to give ur gums a breather. It's a bit like sleeping in ur shoes and being in them 24/7 and never washing them...lol
ok...this dentures might save u money in the long run, but this won't be for years to come.
I don't know how many teeth u have left but if there's not that many missing on the upper or lower, the partial denture u can have is with clasps on them. They are little wires that clasp around one tooth on either side, this helping them better to stay in. Ok i know u've had a bad experience with pain and it's making u feel like this, but hun, do try to think of wot i've said. I have worked with many dentists that will just do what the patients wants and i've also worked with many that simply refused to do this. ur pain free now so try to keep as best u can wot u have left. By going for a regular 6 month check up would avoid most of this. I don't know if u have children but if u do, get them for regualr checkups, it's best to a tiny wee hole in the bud before it gets huge then ends up having to come out......I'm not sure wot area ur in but i think i have an idea...lol so i'm gonna have a scoot about to find ur nearest NHS surgery for u. These dentist charge through the roof because they can, there is no set fee for anything when it comes to private, because they can just charge wot they like. One thing to remember is this....anything the dentist does at the chairside (thats wot we call him doing it himself...like extractions etc....) should be done on the NHS fee, cos its him doing it no one else, and he shouldn't do anything at the chairside better or worse wot ever ur paying. He should do it to the best of his ability...it'a when something that the lab is making ( like, dentures, crowns, inlays etc) depends on the price cos it's not him making it, it's the lab thats doing it and they have to pay the lab. But don't confuse this thinking u have to pay private for anything at the lab cos this is how it works.... when associates, (like most dentist are, these are dentist that work for the principal of the practice) they arte limited to where they can send there work....ie.. the principal will either have his own lab somewhere or use a particular lab and u are contracted to use that lab for any NHS work, however when it comes to private work he can usually send it where he wants, one he knows that make really good private work and is better than standard NHS quality. This however bumps the lab work priceing up so thats also why they charge more for private when it comes to lab work.
I am under treatment my self, but sadly the guy's i used to work for have moved up to wales so i've had to go to a local one near me...anyway i know i need a copuple of fillings and he quoted me £60 for a small occulsal which is a small hole. This being a white filling on my back tooth (white filling on back teeth is not allowed on the nhs cos it cost more and they say that amalgam fillings (the silver type) is much cheaper and strong enough for the job. well, i already have an amalgam filling in the tooth next to it and it is also on the upper which no one is likely to see, so i said to him, it's ok an amalgam one will do, i don't want it done for cosmetic purposes, espically as i have an amalgam filling in the tooth next to it....lol but if i didn't know about this kind of stuff, he would of got away with it, wot pissed me off about it was, he never gave me the option of either. Now i know some peeps want white fillings but if u've already got one amalgam filling in the tooth next it to it and being on the upper it's bloody unlikely i want a private white one is it....lol
Can u see where i'm coming from....although in this case he's charging me more and it's not going to the lab, it's because it's gonna be a composite filling which cost more in material and the nhs won't allow that type of filling on the molars (being as this would be for cosmetic purposes only....)
anyway hun, me fingers are aching now....lol
so i hope u've understood some of that what i have said....if any of it makes sense....lol
F/F dentures should be ur last option.
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