TM-2T OR VU+ ? Need help in choose a new Linux Reciever Please?

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Hi guys, im quite the linux enthusiast, and im quite keen on my module plugins and speed of my receiver. I'm in the market for a new one. We've all heard of the VU+ Duo, but by chance i came across this new receiver, Technomate TM-T2 Twin Tuner, the spec seems to be really good. Has anyone bought this yet ? Its only on systemsat i haven seen it anywhere else.

comparing the spec What i can see is the TM-T2 has a 405MHz Broadcom Dual Core MIPS Processor, 8 Gbit NAND Flash & 3Gbit DDR Ram.
I cant seem to compare it to the VU+ details are 400mhz, i think the key differences i can note is the 'Dual Core', and the massive Memory on the 2T

priced at £269.95 @systemsat (inc del), i did phone to check stock and they do have lots in stock.... has anyone used or bought it yet? :) just looking for some views on it.

Thanks !
 
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That price is too high. You can get the Twin for less than that price. TM may be able to give you a better price, ring them. There were a few on ebay a few weeks ago a lot cheaper than that.
I also have the TM Single, cut down version of the 2T, I can't fault it too much. The 2T has more outputs and memory so should be better.

There are receivers with 1ghz CPUs. Gigablue Quad.
 
hmmm disagree - I haven't seen it That cheap - the TM-2T is only on systemsat wasn't on a few weeks ago. The duo cheapest Official Receiver is £279 inc delivery. Everything else i believe to be fake. For the value i'm actually thinking of the TM-2T.

Gigablue seems a expensive but impressive Cpu speed, Ram : 1GB / 512mb NAND ??? Lacking a bit in comparison...

has anyone actually bought this receiver ?

Edit: TM-2T IS a twin tuner.
 
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that is a high price for the 2T, the full blown TWIN is available for that price, and cheaper. as far as i was aware, the entire stock of the 2T had sold out.

i have a 2T, and they ARE a fast, and solid little box
 
I would hold fire on the Duo and T2 as the VU Solo2 has been given a release date of 20/12/12 with a retail €329, i priced one up earlier from a german retailer and delivered at todays rate comes to a few pence over £290.

The Solo2 will knock spots off anything available at the moment including the Ultimo or until the Duo2 gets a release date, if you can hold on 4 weeks that £290 would be money well spent on a Solo2
 
the ultimo only just edges ahead of the 2T, but, what you get for the money (imo) the 2T wins

405Mhz dual core processor (Solo2 will have dual core 1300Mhz), 1Gbyte (or 8gigabit in confusing ebay speak) flash (Solo2 will have 25% of that @ 256Mb), 384Mb RAM (Solo2 will be 3x that @ 1Gb), Twin tuners (compared to solo single tuner) and an RF output

but, after doing some maths based on prices of the Solo2 being £290 and the 2T being £219, the Solo2 will cost a fraction under 25% MORE that the 2T, to do less, but a fraction of a second faster
 
I see now i assumed the discussion was about the TM-Twin and that T2 was a short abbreviation for it, Apologies now i realise we are talking about the new TM single tuner model. personally after the farce of the 800 i would never touch a TM Linux reciever with a barge pole there closed source 5402 must be one of the best selling but the Linux are far from it.
 
The TM-TWIN, TM-2T, and TM-SINGLE are 3 seperate broadcom chip receivers m8, the TM800 was an NXP based receiver, the 2T is a twin tuner model, the single tuner model will retail for around £159, nearly 50% less than the Solo2, and the only main difference will be in the processor and available RAM, the Single will be far superior (hardware wise) to ANY dm800 type clone available, and cost less, which could massivly affect the clones market in single tuner receivers, as long as the software support is there for them
 
You said it Support Vu currently trounce the competition in this field, although other recievers including the DM's and clones have a mass image range they are all based around a standard OpenPLI core image where as VU also have Blackhole exclusive to them and the hybrid image Blackpole. My own money would be on a Vu and nothing else
 
the Single will be far superior (hardware wise) to ANY dm800 type clone available, and cost less, which could massivly affect the clones market in single tuner receivers, as long as the software support is there for them

please dont take this as a dig or hatred comment as its not intended that way, its a true observation on past efforts

on paper this may be the best receiver out there at this time... but... will the support be there long term? Before they release another receiver onto the market ?

genuine question :)
 
please dont take this as a dig or hatred comment as its not intended that way, its a true observation on past efforts

on paper this may be the best receiver out there at this time... but... will the support be there long term? Before they release another receiver onto the market ?

genuine question :)

thats why i pointed out about the support having to be there ;) we've seen before what was the best receiver at the time on paper, fail spectacularly because of the software 'support' . these are now broadcam based, like all the other receivers out there, with openpli based images, and are all completley open source, people can compile their own 4D, openViX and openAAF images for them from the open-alliance git which is nothing to do with TM or their software team :)
 
It's still TM's manufacturer/software team that are responsible for providing bug-free working hardware drivers which will work with E2 images...judging from the time this took on the TWIN and this being stated by VIX as the reason for reciever instability and image delays .. it apperars TM's maufacturer/software teams still seem incompetent as ever not surprising if it's still ITGate or have they moved to a different manufacturer these days ?
 
to quote phoenix from another forum talking about the gigablue and comparing it to the duo

at least there resolving those bugs in a very timely fashion and most have now been fixed with driver updates, for example look at the Duo when that launched it had a hardware fault which prevented it from waking from deep sleep to make a recording, they had to release a new hardware version to fix that bug, and there are still bugs on our list that we have been asking to be fixed for over two years without Vu even admitting to although they are fully aware of them.

The uno was not able to tune to SR 30,000 channels at all, this was Fixed by Vu flying a engineer from south Korea to the home of one of the ViX team in London at the threat of support being dropped for the box. The xtrend 9000, 9010, 9100, 9200 could not tune to SR 30,000 channels at all on the second tuner again a hardware fault that was not fixed until the 9200 silverline edition which took well over a year.

and the duo STILL has memory leak issues

ive had a twin running here now without a single restart or issue for nearly 2 months straight. without going back over everything when it was the UR team, every issue raised with the TM drivers on the newer receivers has been resolved. ViX wouldnt publically release an image untill their very tight demands were met, and since the vix image release, along with driver updates, theres not an issue with the broadcom based TM receivers
 
I wouldnt believe everything you read Digi mate.
These teams are so far up their own arses they believe they are the be all and end all of everything in the sat world.
I have also had emails with the same points being made lol
 
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ive seen, read, heard, and at one point, got caught up, in all of it m8, but, i quoted that post, as its from someone completley independant, talking about 2 totally different receivers, where its been left for all to see, it shows that the gigablue receivers are having driver issues, that the Vu receivers have been having them for a LONG TIME but have managed to keep them quiet

that post is only a few weeks old, but, it states that the Vu+ duo has issues, that Vu has been made aware of over 2 years ago, and theyre denying it exists, and discontinuing production of the duo, for the better duo2

if this was called the TM duo2, all hell would break loose (again)

i could rattle off half a dozen receivers, that were released in a huge fanfare, and quickly died out, a lot of which ended up with people being told to simply 'buy a newer xxxxxxx instead'

i dont believe ANYTHING i read, i also dont believe 25% of what i type any more lmfao, but in the last 3 months, the core level drivers for these receivers have achieved more than what some receivers have done in 30 months before being discontinued

IF (its a very big if, and just my own personal speculation) things carry on as they are, overall with receiver manufacturers and their driver creators, the progress made by whoever is making the drivers for the broadcom based TM receivers recently, will be overtaking other producers, as theyre already on a newer linux kernel, the drivers have ALL memory leak issues fixed, and afaik the only things that dont work on them, are some DVB-T USB sticks, as the hardware providors havent created drivers to work with the newer linux kernals available on these receivers

ever since being caught out with the 'ebay speak' i now systematically pick apart every detail of every 'specification' i receive, and if i post it, ill also 'decode' it first lol

:)
 
I see prices dropping everywhere, must be good for all concerned.
Solo £179
Uno £229 Single Tuner
Duo £259
Ultimo £339 Double tuners
Solo2 £299 Twin tuner -Pre Order .New coming in 10 dec 2012
Twin Tuner - Plug & Play New for Vu + Uno/Ultimo £59 - Pre -order ( will be next week in stock )
 
Increased competition leading to price cuts is always a good thing for end customers. Personally I think Satellite recievers have been ridiciously overpriced for years... Theres no way something running a 400mhz CPU and a small amount of RAM should cost the same as what you can pick up a laptop computer with vastly superior CPU and 4 times the amount of RAM etc.
This is why the clone makers have been seeing such good sales and uptake same spec hardware albeit with some corners cut and cheaper components but at half the price, personally speaking clones have saved me hundreds of pounds over what the originals would have cost. The clone makers and the added competition in the market place means the maufacturers have had to drop prices to compete..
Personally I think the clone market is in decline unless some other chineese teams take up the mantle... The dream clones havent been able to run the newer Enigma versions and drivers for a while due to counter measures employed by dream with the exception of the A8P SIM..the SIM Teams have realised everytime they patch something dream bring in something new...so it's not worth the effort. Dream themselves appear to have dropped E2 and are now concentrating on Goliath. The better quality clones have always come from SIM 2 team who dont currently have any twin tuner models.
This leaves Ferrari team and going by their track record and current quality control and hardware issues with VU clones it's becoming a false economy to buy a clone as long as prices keep falling on original kit of course.
 
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You said it Support Vu currently trounce the competition in this field, although other recievers including the DM's and clones have a mass image range they are all based around a standard OpenPLI core image where as VU also have Blackhole exclusive to them and the hybrid image Blackpole. My own money would be on a Vu and nothing else

Not true DM clones have multiple images available theyre not all based around PLI...what about EDG Nemesis, Merlin, PeterPan, IHAD/Gemini, DreamElite, PowerBoard etc etc... Theres even modified BlackHole images (unofficial) that run on DM clones. So in effect DM clones have more choice and variety of images available than any other E2 Linux reciever on the market including VU. Mostly due to RamiMaher, MFaraj etc at SIM2 for adapting and patching images to operate on clones.
 
when did this thread become TM-2T OR VU+ ? or Dreambox Clones
 
I am surprised you ask.

Isn't it common knowledge that any thread mentioning TM goes off at a tangent.
 
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