Sensible Topic New referendum

We voted in by a massive majority . We voted against trident against bring in the universal credits the list goes on but they are forced upon us . If you honestly think this is an equal union I'd like you to tell me one thing forced upon England


Scotland remaining part of the UK by means of a referendum of its citizens comes to mind lol
 
Perhaps you missed post #30 @countryboy

I still don't know what the plan for your currency would be if you ever did leave ? it is one of the biggest stumbling blocks for leaving in my opinion
sorry I didn't miss it I thought I had answered it . It would be like the euro . Different countries sharing same currency . Again it belongs to us as much as you

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Scotland remaining part of the UK by means of a referendum of its citizens comes to mind lol
again mate your not reading this properly their mps that they voted for fought to keep scotland in the union that wasn't forced upon them .
 
sorry I didn't miss it I thought I had answered it . It would be like the euro . Different countries sharing same currency . Again it belongs to us as much as you

To be honest here @countryboy that was one of the questions that Salmond never or couldn't answer and if he could have the result may just have been different

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sorry I didn't miss it I thought I had answered it . It would be like the euro . Different countries sharing same currency . Again it belongs to us as much as you

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again mate your not reading this properly their mps that they voted for fought to keep scotland in the union that wasn't forced upon them .

Kinda of semantics here but it was forced on them because the couldn't if they wanted to say right fook off Scotland you won but we don't want you anyway lol
 
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sorry I didn't miss it I thought I had answered it . It would be like the euro . Different countries sharing same currency . Again it belongs to us as much as you

Yes but what I'm saying is that if you adopt the pound, you would have no control over your own currency, this is why we never succumbed to joining the Euro, we would have no control over interest rates set by another country or group of countries, and add to that that the UK government has stated quite clearly that it would not be in our interest to enter a monetary union with an independent Scotland

To stay with the pound would give up your independence in any case, so as I said this will be the biggest issue for the leave campaign
 
I'm not saying everything would be all roses if we got rid of England far from it . It would takes years to sort out the issues . As for the uk not want a share currency . I'm sorry but right now the uk needs all the help it can the us had said that it's trade agreements with Europe comes before the uk and we are away down its list of priorities . I don't think the rest of the uk would be too quick in cutying those ties . We need each other like good neighbours do but we don't need to be tied at the hip
 
I'm not saying everything would be all roses if we got rid of England far from it .

You kind of sum up in those 5 words how you feel, regardless of any pros you just want out full stop @Bronto and @IANB have made some valued points for why Scotland should stay
 
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You kind of sum up in those 5 words how you feel, regardless of any pros you just want out full stop @Bronto and @IANB have made some valued points for why Scotland should stay
What valid points have they made . Stay at all cost . I'll put it another way I love my sister but I don't want her staying with me next door ok but not with me . I feel the same about the England . It's not a bad place but is rather have my own home free of interference
 
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@countryboy
I have a question and would like an honest answer from you if you choose to answer it.

If you were given the choice would you like to see Scotland united with the Republic of Ireland?
 
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@countryboy
I have a question and would like an honest answer from you if you choose to answer it.

If you were given the choice would you like to see Scotland united with the Republic of Ireland?
oh god no . I want scotland to be a free country I don't mind being part of Europe but not tied directly to another country . That's as honest as I can be I love both Ireland and Scotland Ireland will always be my home but I want both as free independent countries . You know something I'm pretty sure more people in England would rather have independence too. Good question though Ian because I've heard other tout that same idea of Wales Scotland Ireland as a celtic union but for me it's no different that what we have already
 
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Well you have your reasons and no matter what anyone says no one is going to change your mind

Stay GB !!!
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Nope, I like it just the way it is and should stay :Hit:


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2 old sayings spring to mind. "Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it", and, "The grass always looks greener on the other side"

Initially I was all for the idea of independence before realising my National pride was overruling my commonsense. This is not merely a divorce where the finances are split and someone takes custody of the kids, (Oil and Gas). Bronto points at the currency issue and the lack of any definitive answers. There is a myriad of problems/ obstacles which would arise from breaking away from the Union. The SNP should not ask the people of Scotland to vote until they are capable of addressing all possibilities.

This would involve having some sort of a plan. I don't believe enough time has been spent to be anywhere near ready to ask the people to vote again. The Brexit bus hasn't even started its' engine yet and Sturgeon calls for another Referendum. Her timing stinks and is obviously being done to suit her own agenda and clearly not in the best interests of her nation.
Could it be that she is worried that the UK will come out a lot stronger once Brexit starts to take effect? and perhaps the people who supported the earlier failed bid would say, "hang on a minute, things aren't so bad after all"
 
Some good points there mate . The gas and oil is in scottish waters so it belongs to her no international court would rule otherwise . It's the share of the debt I would be more concerned about it would takes years to sort this all out . So quicker it's set in motion the better for all concerned
 
As far as I'm concerned Sturgeon is just Sabre rattling to appease a section of her Voters but in reality I cant see her carrying it out. She should just get on with doing the job she was elected for and drop the egotistic sh ite that she has inherited from Salmond.
 
As far as I'm concerned Sturgeon is just Sabre rattling to appease a section of her Voters but in reality I cant see her carrying it out. She should just get on with doing the job she was elected for and drop the egotistic sh ite that she has inherited from Salmond.
I think she is doing what she was voted in for she is the head of a nationalist party that had at its core a membership crying out for independence
 
I think she is doing what she was voted in for she is the head of a nationalist party that had at its core a membership crying out for independence

That's what she is leading yous to believe mate. Did you read the article I posted earlier ;)
 
Nicola Sturgeon is an absolute IDIOT !!!

Wants to be independent BUT governed by a bunch of EU bureaucrats...Ha Ha
 
Some good points there mate . The gas and oil is in scottish waters so it belongs to her no international court would rule otherwise . It's the share of the debt I would be more concerned about it would takes years to sort this all out . So quicker it's set in motion the better for all concerned
Yes mate, quite correct. I wasn't trying to dispute who would be entitled to ownership of the resources. But it wouldn't be a simple matter of the UK just letting it go.
It wasn't discovered by accident, the cost of "prospecting" ("for want of a better word"), the building and siting of rigs and the whole infrastructure cost a fortune. This was all done as being part of the UK, I can't honestly see why the UK would then let it go without some form of compensation.
 
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