Sensible Topic Ched Evans

GFYS @Fangface
The jury system saves the day again
I hate justice ?
long live Ched Evans
I don't condone rape
He just humpted a pure cow
A penalty kick if you like ?

I’m sorry rodboy, but in order for you to insult me, I must first value your opinion. Nice try though.
 
@rodboy @Fangface take any personal difference to pm please. Lets not spoil the thread.......

I have no personal difference with anyone wishing to debate a topic, which is only what I had been doing up to now.
I apologise if anyone has taken offence.
 
I found it strange that the person was not too drunk to consent to sex with one person, but without drinking any more became more intoxicated to consent later on. I work in an environment where I come in contact with a lot of drunk people. The videos of the complainant where she got out of the vehicle and went back etc were a revelation to say the least.

I was in two juries involving involving sex related crimes. In one case, two jurors were abused when they were young and despite the evidence contradicting the allegation, they had to pass a guilty verdict no matter what. I feel for them, but punishing someone and their family because of what someone else did to you is wrong! The others among us based our decisions based on the evidence as delivered in front of us.

In another case, it was historic one so was bound to be difficult. There was no evidence other than the accusation. The guy got convicted because of a majority vote. In a nutshell this was because "he must be guilty, why would someone make it up?"

I have not named anyone nor made reference to the cases.

Looking at the case and implications for everyone in general. A person meets someone, s/he says yes. They have sex. Later on after the sex, s/he says I did not consent. Is/was this rape?

The guy's family had money and could employ someone to gather evidence and pursue their view that he did not rape anyone and it was consensual sex. What happens to those who cannot afford such endeavours? Surely liberty is not only for the wealthy/privileged?

Rape is an abhorrent crime. There must be checks in place to protect people and also means to report it without hindrance.

There seems to be a push to secure more rape convictions. Surely, the push should be to convict more rapists?
 
Have i missed all the apologies..? Was looking forward to them..!
I think this is what you were after @Tamarc mate.
The family of footballer Ched Evans have said they may take legal action after a discussion of his rape acquittal on ITV's Loose Women.

Lets hear more from "Jessica Ennis hill"

Ched Evans' family may 'take action' against Loose Women - BBC News
https://apple.news/A1tv1swcRRTy5rDwVTxKw2w
 
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All i'm saying is , if she was quick enough to put the man down, then she should be just as quick to withdraw the statement,even if she does not agree with the outcome,law has been ruled.
 
All i'm saying is , if she was quick enough to put the man down, then she should be just as quick to withdraw the statement,even if she does not agree with the outcome,law has been ruled.

She made the statement when he was a convicted rapist. Simple as that.

But I ask again, why is she, and she alone, being singled out when others have made similar statements?
 
Well.she is not alone in being singled out ...???? Whit ?....nah bedtime me thinks
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She made the statement when he was a convicted rapist. Simple as that.

But I ask again, why is she, and she alone, being singled out when others have made similar statements?

Yes, Ched Evans was a convicted rapist but he had served his sentence and was a free man in the eyes of the law. Attempts to punish him further, by preventing him resuming his career, were vigilante justice, which has no place in a civilised society.

While Jessica Ennis-Hill was not the only person to voice an opinion, she was the most high-profile (and the only one with her name on a stand at his old club, Sheffield United) so she should lead the apologies.
 
While Jessica Ennis-Hill was not the only person to voice an opinion, she was the most high-profile (and the only one with her name on a stand at his old club, Sheffield United) so she should lead the apologies.

Here here, she should stand up and lead the way with the apologies and re-name the stand the "2's up Stand"
 
Odd that the 'lady' in question initially reported her handbag stolen?

It all escalated rather too quickly in my view.
 
Ched Evans had been silly and no way deserves to be jailed.
 
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