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If you can see this then you have read the title of the room
If You Dont Like What You Read, Leave The Room
I have highlighted it for effect

Also you will have read the rules for the room
https://www.digitalworldz.co.uk/index.php?threads/271903/
in particular
This room will be loosely moderated and potentially may result in an "anything goes" room, and hence some posts may cause offence to others. If this is the case please leave the room. and look around other parts of the forum.

If you don't understand the rules to this room then your access will be restricted and you will not be able to see it.
 
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If you can see this then you have read the title of the room
If You Dont Like What You Read, Leave The Room
I have highlighted it for effect


"This room will be loosely moderated and potentially may result in an "anything goes" room, and hence some posts may cause offence to others. If this is the case please leave the room. and look around other parts of the forum."

I've no problem with your post as such ellie, but am I the only one who can see the problem with apparent contradiction in the wording of that rule?

I think it needs to be rephrased to tighten up the meaning, otherwise moderation will continue to be a minefield.
 
It's quite clear to me
The line above in the rules tells everyone what isn't allowed
This room is going to be opened up to allow you to get your issues off your chest and let of some steam. But not to insult each other
I only found 1 post that to me was insulting (and I would assume to everyone else) in that thread and the member has been pm'd
You cannot call each other names ie cnut but arguement and disagreements even distasteful posts are allowed.

Moderating is always a minefield especially as we all see things in a different way, thats why we have a mods room to thrash things out.
 
dont read into the rule! everyone can take in what it means.

You dont like what your reading, Leave!

Why complain?
 
dont read into the rule! everyone can take in what it means.

You dont like what your reading, Leave!

Why complain?

You obviously don't understand the point I'm trying to make, which is fair enough, but to interpret my post as a complaint is just odd.

Please read it again.
 
I will say it's not just nara, we as mods can't agree on the wording and interpretation so it may get changed.

Until it gets changed I will be taking the existing rules literally.

So much as I hate to admit it nara does have a point.
 
I called him a cnut coz he is, simples. You need ya head tssting you ellie, the guy was prompting 1 of our cracking members to kill himself and you dont think thats out of place, the only post in that thread you took as insulting was me calling him a name..... So the post about telling someone to end there life was fine.... What a fookin joke mate!

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We don't have a rule for people that are mentally retarded, don't blame me blame care in the community.

His post was in bad taste but wasn't against the rules, how can you make a rule for something that stupid ?

You were insulting regardless of if you were correct or not.

I don't believe that exos for 1 second considered following the suggestion and i'm quite shocked that you think so little of him that you thought he would have taken the stupid suggestion seriously.

Sounds more to me that you just wanted to give it the bigun, If I had really been so upset about your comments you would have been infracted for it which you were not so why are you crying as if you have been infracted ?.
 
Giving it the bigun, shut up will ya... Only reason i commented on this was coz you blatently made a point for everyone to see that you were referring to my post...

Your probably worse then half the ppl on here for causing arguments... And i think you'll find its you trying to give it the "bigun" as you say... When you know nothing about how i feel about exos integrity as a man, yet you still try to undermine me??? i was under no illusion the man took it with a pinch of salt, the fact is someone else may of just took his silly comment to heart and seen it through... You have probably pissed more ppl off with this thread then i did with my comment... Rules or not use abit common sense!

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"cue" more sarky comments from ellie trying to degrade a member, roll up roll up!

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<snip> You have probably pissed more ppl off with this thread then i did with my comment... Rules or not use abit common sense!

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That won't be hard as I don't believe you pissed of anybody with your comment, I was in agreement but it doesn't make it within the rules.

https://www.digitalworldz.co.uk/index.php?threads/283229/#post2079912
I refer you to the bottom line and you never even got an infraction so I think that means
You need ya head tssting you ellie,
Was not really warranted. Or the rest of your ramblings, sod it next time I will just follow the rules and not show any discretion I get less grief that way.
I like the way I ignore the rules as I agree with you and I'm
trying to degrade a member
what stick would I have got if I had given you an infraction leading to a ban I dread to think.
 
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just forget it, im not normally 1 to argue, especially on a forum... im here to help people and be helped nothing more nothing less! ;)
 
You obviously don't understand the point I'm trying to make, which is fair enough, but to interpret my post as a complaint is just odd.

Please read it again.


Yes i do, your reading into the rule too much and you think it contradicts itself.

You think it contradicts itself, but still you can see what the rule is meant to say.

So why bring up at all that the rule seems to contradict itself, when you know what the rule means anyway?
 
I wish I had closed this now and the discussions could have been in a seperate thread :roflmao:
 
Yes i do, your reading into the rule too much and you think it contradicts itself.

You think it contradicts itself, but still you can see what the rule is meant to say.

So why bring up at all that the rule seems to contradict itself, when you know what the rule means anyway?

I'd argue with that if I could understand it.
 
At the end of the day unless the mods are going to vote for one single mod to be in charge of that forum, the rules are always going to be open to interpretation and also going to be enforced by one mod more that others.... that's just a given and it sounds like the mods have their own back room to argue...I mean discuss any conflicts in their own right. Many of us have moderated on other forums and know it's a thankless job as there's always going to be someone pissed off with someones enforcement of a rule, particularly if they have to step into an argument between members - but that's what the mods are there for.... like it or lump it

-If you want to disagree with their decision then appeal against it and see if they will vote on it amongst themselves

-If you want to 'give it the biggun' in public as it's been described then do it see how tolerant that mod will be, take an infraction, or take a risk being banned

-Let it consume you, hold a grudge and troll that mod risking an infraction... blah blah blah

-Swallow hard and take it, then either carry on normally or go and slag them off elsewhere

-Open your eyes and realise you're arguing over a pinhole site in the galaxy of the internet. There may be other sites on the internet that share your convictions.... go take a wander
 
I think the context of the moderation needs to be clear.

The room is modded and my interpretation of loose is that, inappropriate or misplaced threads and posts will be moved. Remarks that are pure insults or direct attempts at attacking, trolling, baiting etc will be treated as in any other element of the forum, however given the nature of the area it may not be moderated in a scenario where someone is ranting over a broader topic (i.e. something that may affect or is a result of a number of members, or nothing to do with anything in anyones area of concern at all)

It's a fine line, and there are limited boundaries which is where I think the common sense element comes in, and probably something which BIG-HOL was alluding to.

In terms of what was posted and I'm flattered that I'm a portion or reasoning to the discussion point, but that to me falls into the realms of above, it was a direct attack with no context, it was baiting me for a response because he had no basis for an argument, so rather than do that it was necessary to essentially tell me to go kill myself. You do have to consider the wider implications or context to the comments made and of course I would have taken that as a stupid remark/pinch of salt, but I am one person amongst a myriad of others with differing persona's and state of mind...

In the context for me personally I took more offense to the previous comments in that same thread rather than that one alone, because it wasn't anything more than an attempt to put me down.
 
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I really wish I had closed this thread.

@vectorz regardless of what people think I hand out very few infractions or bans, I threaten them a lot though. I also take a lot of stick in pm's from members I have upset (I seem to have a knack of this ?), I never infract for pm's sent to me with members letting off steam about a grievance/perceived grievance and ignore if by pm but don't tolerate in open forum.

I prefer the multiple mods as this gives a more balanced view, the mods don't always agree but if it becomes an arguement then we hold a poll and democracy wins, thommo's avatar is a good example I don't like it, I mentioned it in the mods room and no one agreed with me (in reality they ripped the piss out of me and called me names :( ) so the avatar stays simples, democracy at work.

@exos If those comments had been aimed at what I consider to be a weaker (not a good choice of words but hopefully people will know what I mean) or more vulnerable member it would have been removed but to be honest I wanted people to see what kind of person the poster is so he loses the little support he has on the forum as a whole.

I don't take to much of what goes on in this room because of the nature of it.
 
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I'm with what Exos said in his last post.

I really think it's important to maintain the general feel of decent and considerate communication on DW.

I've had a few people deliberately trying to wind me up and I reached the point, with one of them, that I just ignored all his comments.

People often say: If you don't like it, ignore it. For me, this misses the point. The few who nearly always make personal comments and have a generally nasty way of posting spoil the whole feel of this place.

I also see what Ellie is getting at when he says: I wanted people to see what kind of person the poster is so he loses the little support he has on the forum as a whole.

But I have seen other members, who might not tend towards being unpleasant, being drawn in that direction by one of those "heavy" members.
 
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