Labour plans for everyone to get paid for no work.

Sorry miggy I agree with him everyone should be able to work and live . If the wages were high enough then we wouldn't need these types of sches but companies are greedy and don't want to pay workers a living wage .

Would it not be cheaper to force companies into paying the living wage to workers rather than just paying every Tom Dick or Harry money to sit on there backside.
 
There has to be enough jobs to go around . Not everyone can be be in the high paid jobs some are 0 hour contracted . We need a welfare system that doesn't make people feel like beggars and kids suffer .

We need a benefit system that is fair to both working or non working man. Encourage the work shy to look for work. Now that would be a good idea.
 
It's not worth getting worked up about something which, at the moment, is not even a policy, but just an idea being studied by a party which seems to have little prospect of getting into government.
 
It's not worth getting worked up about something which, at the moment, is not even a policy, but just an idea being studied by a party which seems to have little prospect of getting into government.

I sincerely hope you are right fella. Because I smell trouble ahead if it becomes legal.
 
lmao don't you just love Corbyn and he's left wing mob, what gives anyone the right to get money for nothing ? who will pay for all this ? I fully agree there should be a higher minimum wage, but people need to progress themselves further, they need to work hard and go out and get the training and experience needed to command higher salaries, no one is going to take on someone with Zero experience who has been on the doll all their life and give them a £60 to £70k or higher paid job, it will never happen

Labour will never get back into power again all the time Corbyn is leader and takes the party further and further to the Left
 
lmao don't you just love Corbyn and he's left wing mob, what gives anyone the right to get money for nothing ? who will pay for all this ? I fully agree there should be a higher minimum wage, but people need to progress themselves further, they need to work hard and go out and get the training and experience needed to command higher salaries, no one is going to take on someone with Zero experience who has been on the doll all their life and give them a £60 to £70k or higher paid job, it will never happen

Labour will never get back into power again all the time Corbyn is leader and takes the party further and further to the Left
so who is going to be the chambermaids the hall porters the bin men . Where are all these high paid jobs going to come from Infact where are all these jobs low paid jobs going to come from . I'm so glad I am a socialist and am not one of these middle class that don't get the fact that most people are 3 wage slips away from being homeless . There for the grace of god go I . Comes to mind
 
After 25yrs as a labour voter I have gone to UKIP as long as JC is in charge
 
so who is going to be the chambermaids the hall porters the bin men . Where are all these high paid jobs going to come from Infact where are all these jobs low paid jobs going to come from . I'm so glad I am a socialist and am not one of these middle class that don't get the fact that most people are 3 wage slips away from being homeless . There for the grace of god go I . Comes to mind
So what because I earn good wages I should be somehow embarrassed of that ? I work hard for what I get and I got there from Fcuk all, I don't really give a shite about what other people earn, I don't care if someone earns more or less than me, point is whenever I wanted or needed more money I got up off my arse and went out and got it, if people can't do that it's not my fault nor the middle class or any other classes fault

And yes your right, if I believed in god it would be by he's grace I am where I am, but I don't and it's not, it's through my own hard work and my own sacrifices, and guess what I am not embarrassed about it !
 
Well mate I'm not bad off . But I still see and feel for others that ain't . Thing is I've been on both sides I lost my home through no fault of our own . But I got everything back and I'll never look down on anyone guess its just your upbringing and the company you keep
 
guess its just your upbringing and the company you keep
Just what do you mean by that ? How fcuking dare you judge me, you know fcuk all about my upbringing and you know fcuk all about what company I keep ? If it's any of your fcuking business I come from a council estate in South London and don't tell me about skint, I been there with Nothing, Difference is I crawled out, if others cant that's not my fault I don't look down on anyone, no one ever gave me any help

So as I said don't fcuking judge me pal
 
Just what do you mean by that ? How fcuking dare you judge me, you know fcuk all about my upbringing and you know fcuk all about what company I keep ? If it's any of your fcuking business I come from a council estate in South London and don't tell me about skint, I been there with Nothing, Difference is I crawled out, if others cant that's not my fault I don't look down on anyone, no one ever gave me any help

So as I said don't fcuking judge me pal
what I meant was I was brought up with strong socialist views my dad was a union leader in the post office through the bleak 70's 80's that's my upbringing . The company I keep well it's always been on the far left RSF . So we have 2 very different ways of looking at life . Being brought up in a council estate means nothing some of the biggest snobs I know where brought up there and when they moved out forgot what it was like to HAVE To live there . When I see these areas it hurts me when I speak to people that say well if they wanted out they would get out it angers me not everyone can get out the poverty trap .
Guess we have 2 extremely different views on this mate and nothing I can will change your mind
 
Put quite simply the Labour party are in disarray thanks to Corbyn and will never get in power whilst he is in charge, so good news there.

The conservatives have to constantly undo the damage done to the country every time Labour get in. Maggie had the hardest job leading us out of those dark socialist days of the 70s into a bright and prosperous future of the 80s, even the music was better!

Tony Blair and Co did their utmost to destroy us again and very nearly succeeded.

Our once great country is in disarray due to the years of Labour leadership under the aforementioned. When will people learn that giving handouts and benefits to all and sundry is not and never will be the answer.

Get them off their fat backsides and make them work, but no, they want to sit at home all day, playing Playstation, eating burgers, smoking and drinking, all at the Government's expense therefore the tax payers expense.

The welfare system is broken and needs a complete overhaul. They could do a lot worse than look at the Spanish system, in basic terms, if you haven't put in, you can't take out. So nobody can claim any sort of benefit until they have paid into the system, until then it is the families responsibility to support them. Immigration is relatively low because of this. I am not saying this system is perfect, far from it, but I believe it is quite a good model.

The views above are entirely my own.
 
What about those disabled that can't work ? Do they starve . Thatcher was a evil cow and if hell exists she will be there . There isn't enough jobs to give everyone a job so that's why we have the unemployed . Do you really think any one wants to live on the pittance they pay
 
What about those disabled that can't work ? Do they starve . Thatcher was a evil cow and if hell exists she will be there . There isn't enough jobs to give everyone a job so that's why we have the unemployed . Do you really think any one wants to live on the pittance they pay

I did say that the welfare system needs an overhaul not scrapping altogether. Of course we should look after genuine cases where people are unable to work through no fault of their own.

As for the great Maggie we will just have to agree to disagree.
 
What about those disabled that can't work ? Do they starve . Thatcher was a evil cow and if hell exists she will be there . There isn't enough jobs to give everyone a job so that's why we have the unemployed . Do you really think any one wants to live on the pittance they pay
Disability benefit, income support and JSA are completely different, I don't think any decent person would argue against looking after the disabled who cannot earn for themselves, I for one gladly contribute for them.

What I am against is the growing number of people who see income support / JSA as a way of life, a living, you see it all to often on these benefit Britain TV shows, why should I support these arseholes who can't wait for Giro day so they can go out and buy their drugs and beer ? answer me that
 
Disability benefit, income support and JSA are completely different, I don't think any decent person would argue against looking after the disabled who cannot earn for themselves, I for one gladly contribute for them.

What I am against is the growing number of people who see income support / JSA as a way of life, a living, you see it all to often on these benefit Britain TV shows, why should I support these arseholes who can't wait for Giro day so they can go out and buy their drugs and beer ? answer me that
Seriously your argument is based on channel 5 TV shows . Sorry mate I can't even argue with that thinking
 
Seriously your argument is based on channel 5 TV shows . Sorry mate I can't even argue with that thinking
Are you saying these shows are made up ? or you just don't have an argument to defend the freeloaders who buy drugs and beer with their benefits ?
 
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