Scotland 'Yes' vote means leaving pound.

Be a pity if the Scottish people got shafted on a 'charisma' vehicle :(

I read the paper (the summary, the 600-odd pages was a bit soporific) - it espouses what many would want, in ANY country.

It's not real though in the sense that there are too many obstacles and not just from Westminster, from the Eurozone too. Not just from Brussels but Eurozone countries.

My vote goes to a political manoeuvre intended to get more independence for SNP WITHIN the UK.

Of course, I've been wrong before, my cynicism precedes me!

:)
 
After independence both governments would diverge, otherwise what's the point ? I don't see how they could have shared a currency.
I know it's a very extreme example, but could North and South Korea have shared a currency ?:)
 
Him Her said:
Oh, I think there's plenty of political 'flim-flam' yet to come :sneaky:
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That might be but in my eyes this kills the independence debate for nationalists. Salmond and the rest of the idiots who want independence know they can't have an independent Scotland with out Sterling. The only option now will be to take the Euro and once that happens the powers won back would move straight to Brussels and what ever powers are left would slowly be moved to the control of the Euro superstate as well.

Im surprised liebour has backed this too considering they have facilitated every move up to this point. Realization they would never get in power in England again might have turned their hand? Progressive rats they are.
 
eon said:
That might be but in my eyes this kills the independence debate for nationalists. Salmond and the rest of the idiots who want independence know they can't have an independent Scotland with out Sterling. The only option now will be to take the Euro and once that happens the powers won back would move straight to Brussels and what ever powers are left would slowly be moved to the control of the Euro superstate as well.

Im surprised liebour has backed this too considering they have facilitated every move up to this point. Realization they would never get in power in England again might have turned their hand? Progressive rats they are.
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Do you even know what you're talking about or are you just a Salmond hater? and btw i'm far from being an idiot.
 
FiGgY132 said:
Do you even know what you're talking about or are you just a Salmond hater? and btw i'm far from being an idiot.
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Yes i do actually, the question is does Salmond? How can you have an independent Scotland without your own currency? If you stick with Sterling then you will have NO control over the rules the Bank of England set and if you go with the Euro say goodby to independence. Either way its a elephant in the room Salmond will have to address before the 'Yes' campaign can move forward. If he says this changes nothing then god help you all cause you are being lied to.

No i have no love for Salmond, or the nationalists tbh bench of selfish twats if you ask me
 
Was listening to various radio interviews today, all the 'Yes' snp people they all had on, have the same lines "the English think the Scottish people are stupid and don't know what they want" or "Scotland doesn't need England" - every one of them sounding like a speech from Braveheart, trying to stir up feeling WITHOUT any details, sensible counter argument, facts or alternatives.

They're flying by the seat of their pants - but no credibility. I'm half Scottish so I'm allowed somewhat of a opinion

I don't see why more power just isn't slowly devolved. I hope they vote to stay
 
I don't think wanting rid of trident nuclear weapons (or their proposed replacement) from the ENTIRE British Isles is one bit selfish - my main reason for voting yes. I doubt the rUK with £1.4Trillion worth of debt and quantitative easing would be able to afford them without Scotland's contribution.
 
FiGgY132 said:
I don't think wanting rid of trident nuclear weapons (or their proposed replacement) from the ENTIRE British Isles is one bit selfish - my main reason for voting yes. I doubt the rUK with £1.4Trillion worth of debt and quantitative easing would be able to afford them without Scotland's contribution.
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Irrelevant as far as Scottish independence is concerned - Trident is a separate argument. An independent Scotland would either have to create it's own defence policy and budget or deal with Westminster.

As previously observed, no substance, just smoke and mirrors.
 
For your information we can take the pound even without the union agreeing to it.

And if the UK government cut there nose off and dont give us a currency union enjoy your debt. Here in a debt free scotland we will be laughin.

I'm sure you have all herd on the news in the last 24 hours about Mr Osborn making a speech tomorrow saying scotland wont be able to keep the pound after ‪#‎Scottish‬ ‪#‎Independence‬

If you haven't seen the articual please see here:
BBC News - Scottish independence: UK parties 'will block money union'

Just in case you where worried, Don't be.

We (Scotland) Own the pound, it is our currency weather the UK government like it or not. Just under 9% of it in fact.

Unfortunately, By saying we wont be able to use the pound it makes everyone query what excally would happen. Well, on that note experts have decided to let us know our options:

Poundland: Independent Scotland?s currency options - The Scotsman

Just rember this:

The UK not agreeing to a currency union will be the makers off:

- It’ll be massively unpopular with business on both sides of the border, and risks all sorts of havoc and damage to the UK economy just as it starts to recover.

- Scottish voters are likely to regard it as arrogant bullying.

- It gives the Yes side seven months to get the public used to a Plan B, of which there are several viable possibilities that aren’t very scary. (The most probable seems a Scottish pound pegged to Sterling.)

- It gets the Scottish Government off a rather awkward hook of uncertainty, and also frees the Yes camp from some troublesome internal conflicts around the issue that “Better Together” has enjoyed exploiting.

- It gives the Scottish Government precious little reason to accept any share of rUK debt, leaving an independent Scotland starting with a clean slate rather than up to £150bn of debt.

At Scotland’s current deficit (most of which is actually UK debt repayments), it’d take us about 100 years to rack up that sort of sum – even factoring in higher borrowing costs, being able to walk away from that is still a very visible jackpot.

- It leaves the UK government pretty short of bargaining chips in independence negotiations. What exactly do they have left to threaten Scotland with? Sterling was the one thing Scotland really wanted from the deal. Any hopes the UK government had of keeping Trident in place for a few years, for example, are surely now shot to pieces.

Good luck to them. I think them for making a bigger mockery of what the Better Together campaign was already doing.
 
FiGgY132 said:
I don't think wanting rid of trident nuclear weapons (or their proposed replacement) from the ENTIRE British Isles is one bit selfish - my main reason for voting yes. I doubt the rUK with £1.4Trillion worth of debt and quantitative easing would be able to afford them without Scotland's contribution.
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Maybe with money saved from the scotich social benifit could help. We will manage whatever, we are even good enough to pay the debt you will leave us without spitting our dummy out as the Bank of England has promised. How good of us ay

Joe1989 said:
For your information we can take the pound even without the union agreeing to it.

And if the UK government cut there nose off and dont give us a currency union enjoy your debt. Here in a debt free scotland we will be laughin.

I'm sure you have all herd on the news in the last 24 hours about Mr Osborn making a speech tomorrow saying scotland wont be able to keep the pound after ‪#‎Scottish‬ ‪#‎Independence‬

If you haven't seen the articual please see here:
BBC News - Scottish independence: UK parties 'will block money union'

Just in case you where worried, Don't be.

We (Scotland) Own the pound, it is our currency weather the UK government like it or not. Just under 9% of it in fact.

Unfortunately, By saying we wont be able to use the pound it makes everyone query what excally would happen. Well, on that note experts have decided to let us know our options:

Poundland: Independent Scotland?s currency options - The Scotsman

Just rember this:

The UK not agreeing to a currency union will be the makers off:

- It’ll be massively unpopular with business on both sides of the border, and risks all sorts of havoc and damage to the UK economy just as it starts to recover.

- Scottish voters are likely to regard it as arrogant bullying.

- It gives the Yes side seven months to get the public used to a Plan B, of which there are several viable possibilities that aren’t very scary. (The most probable seems a Scottish pound pegged to Sterling.)

- It gets the Scottish Government off a rather awkward hook of uncertainty, and also frees the Yes camp from some troublesome internal conflicts around the issue that “Better Together” has enjoyed exploiting.

- It gives the Scottish Government precious little reason to accept any share of rUK debt, leaving an independent Scotland starting with a clean slate rather than up to £150bn of debt.

At Scotland’s current deficit (most of which is actually UK debt repayments), it’d take us about 100 years to rack up that sort of sum – even factoring in higher borrowing costs, being able to walk away from that is still a very visible jackpot.

- It leaves the UK government pretty short of bargaining chips in independence negotiations. What exactly do they have left to threaten Scotland with? Sterling was the one thing Scotland really wanted from the deal. Any hopes the UK government had of keeping Trident in place for a few years, for example, are surely now shot to pieces.

Good luck to them. I think them for making a bigger mockery of what the Better Together campaign was already doing.
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You can leave with the pound but you wont be controlling interest rates and so on, that will be done in the bank of England, so effectively we will control your economy. You are heading for the Euro weather you like it or not.

ps, the rest of your statement is a pipe dream. The scotish pound ffs
 
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scotlands always had its own pound, you should see the shopkeepers faces in south wales when you try spending a scottish £20 note, lol
 
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