Good speech Mr Ed!

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Well, credit where due, good speech.

Congratulations to Angela Merkel too - of course she'll need to agree a coalition deal yet.

Mr Ed seems at odds with the German dumpling however as he wants higher wages and the German industrial powerhouse are where they are by keeping wages down to stay competitive.

The French (and the southern Mediterranean countries) are stuffed by their profligate wage policies.

Of course you can argue about rich tw@ts etc. and that's also true.

Interesting times, looking forward to the next chapter :)
 
Good speech? which was that? The one where Red ED shows his true colors, the first speech the liebour Marxist party have made about ANY policy's in 4 years and business is already running for the hills!! great start ED at keeping the economy on track!!

This fool cant even deal with his own Marxist union puppet masters never mind big business, and after the last performance from the commys i wouldn't trust them with my lunch money never mind the economy. Spent half the gold reserves, had ALL the revenue from north sea oil over there 13 year disastrous rein, and still got us in 1.7 trillion debt if i remember correctly. Some will say arr yes its because they had to bail the greedy bankers out, yes they did after deregulating the banks that allowed them to mess up the way they did. Then the icing on the cake is the note left in the Treasury which read along the lines of 'HA HA There is nothing left'.

The simple fact is every time the commys are in power the economy suffers, which in turn WE suffer, and the commys don't mind that we suffer. They will actually make it worse for the general public by political point scoring at our cost. Take Manchester city council as an example, they have been crying poverty over the cuts yet had 43 million stashed away that they tried to cover up, that money could be spent on other things yet its used as a political tool to make the conservatives look bad. So its clear to me the commys don't give a fook about us, all they are interested in is sticking the middle finger to the right!!!

I for one have have enough of the commys social engineering plans that were implemented over their 13 years of importing foreign voters, the good old Peter Madelson was caught out the other week admitting liebour sent search party's across the globe to import their new voting base, because as i have said they don't give a fook about the ordinary working class anymore feeling betrayed after their defeat under maggie with the miners strike. Plus they have orchestrated Scotland's withdraw from the union and considering that is half their voting base who WILL vote for liebour? So they import a new voting base,that is more likely to vote liebour.

They don't even think we are worthy enough to give us a vote on Europe ffs, you the people WILL do what WE the Liebour (Commy,Marxist) party say!!!!!
 
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Good speech? which was that? The one where Red ED shows his true colors, the first speech the liebour Marxist party have made about ANY policy's in 4 years and business is already running for the hills!! great start ED at keeping the economy on track!!

This fool cant even deal with his own Marxist union puppet masters never mind big business, and after the last performance from the commys i wouldn't trust them with my lunch money never mind the economy. Spent half the gold reserves, had ALL the revenue from north sea oil over there 13 year disastrous rein, and still got us in 1.7 trillion debt if i remember correctly. Some will say arr yes its because they had to bail the greedy bankers out, yes they did after deregulating the banks that allowed them to mess up the way they did. Then the icing on the cake is the note left in the Treasury which read along the lines of 'HA HA There is nothing left'.

The simple fact is every time the commys are in power the economy suffers, which in turn WE suffer, and the commys don't mind that we suffer. They will actually make it worse for the general public by political point scoring at our cost. Take Manchester city council as an example, they have been crying poverty over the cuts yet had 43 million stashed away that they tried to cover up, that money could be spent on other things yet its used as a political tool to make the conservatives look bad. So its clear to me the commys don't give a fook about us, all they are interested in is sticking the middle finger to the right!!!

I for one have have enough of the commys social engineering plans that were implemented over their 13 years of importing foreign voters, the good old Peter Madelson was caught out the other week admitting liebour sent search party's across the globe to import their new voting base, because as i have said they don't give a fook about the ordinary working class anymore feeling betrayed after their defeat under maggie with the miners strike. Plus they have orchestrated Scotland's withdraw from the union and considering that is half their voting base who WILL vote for liebour? So they import a new voting base,that is more likely to vote liebour.

They don't even think we are worthy enough to give us a vote on Europe ffs, you the people WILL do what WE the Liebour (Commy,Marxist) party say!!!!!

Its refreshing to find someone so utterly uninformed.
Well done!
 
He wants 16-year-olds to vote because they won't remember the 70s.

Back to power cuts too, I think something similar happened in California more recently. Getting rid of the renewable energy surcharge on power bills would be a good start.
 
Its refreshing to find someone so utterly uninformed.
Well done!

I though it was quite entertaining too.(eon, not Ed.)

I'm not too sure whether uninformed or ill-informed would be the correct description. :Laugh:
 
I though it was quite entertaining too.(eon, not Ed.)

I'm not too sure whether uninformed or ill-informed would be the correct description. :Laugh:

good point.
however, the OP, not knowing the difference between Communism and Socialism, lead me to say Uninformed. ????????????
@specter I remember the seventies Blackouts and all.
it was still a feck site better country then than now
Union power is far less now than then (bit of a double edged sword that)
the major problem with the seventies was that the Arabs stopped us STEALING their oil, by upping the price. (often forgotten that. but vital to what happened.)

I also went to school.
then a business was supposed to invest, and reap the benefits of that investment in the future.
now they want to invest, now and reap the benefits now.
that's not the free market that's bleeding a captive market, in a totally uncompetitive environment.
 
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ffs why the feck can you not all tel the truth
politicians are a bunch of two face coonts that tell you what you might want to hear then when they get into power the do what ever they what and feck you and the rest of the country
 
ffs why the feck can you not all tel the truth
politicians are a bunch of two face coonts that tell you what you might want to hear then when they get into power the do what ever they what and feck you and the rest of the country

Erm, we was trying to be subtle lol
 
How the Kremlin hijacked Labour: Diary of a Kremlin insider reveals the hold Soviets had over Labour politicians | Mail Online

Is not Red ED's farther a Marxist Professor?

Marxism-Leninism, Communism its all the same shit!!

My parents were dyed in the wool conservatives and loved Thatch3r and all she stood for.
I've been a socialist (as a Labour supporter) all my adult life. and hated (hate) Thatch3r along with most of what she stood for.
so your point was?

Marxism-Leninism, Communism are all forms of socialism, not the other way around.
and democratic socialism (labour) is a subset too.

Marxism-Leninism, Communism are all autocratic dictatorships.
ok so all governments can be autocratic, at some time. but Britain hasn't had a dictator since Cromwell. yet has had 6 Labour governments.
not very Communist of them is it?

saying Labour is Communist is like saying Conservatives are National Socialists, better know as Nazis.

All political ideologies have extream's. neither left or right is particularly palatable.
we have not yet (possibly excluding Cromwell) had a a government of either extream.

I'll deal with the paper artificial after i have found the veracity of the story.
 

having checked the veracity of the paper story:.

its utter bollox, with no indication any of it is true.
its the sort of right wing propaganda Mussolini (and friends) was known for.

good idea it, if posting something paper related as truth, check if anybody else has the story.
in this case only the Ma1l carried the drivel, coz everyone else knew it was bull poo.

Read SHITE know SHITE.
 
good idea it, if posting something paper related as truth, check if anybody else has the story.
in this case only the Ma1l carried the drivel, coz everyone else knew it was bull poo.

Read SHITE know SHITE.

Good advice, particularly in relation to "Mail" stories.

We've had a couple of instances lately on here where their reporting has been proved to be either complete nonsense, or a mangled version of the truth designed to suit their agenda.
 
having checked the veracity of the paper story:.

its utter bollox, with no indication any of it is true.
its the sort of right wing propaganda Mussolini (and friends) was known for.

good idea it, if posting something paper related as truth, check if anybody else has the story.
in this case only the Ma1l carried the drivel, coz everyone else knew it was bull poo.

Read SHITE know SHITE.

Finally got chance to sit down and reply!!!

So who made you the authority on validating news storys? Do you have a magic crystal ball that will confirm or debunk any news story you throw at it? pmsl. You have google like everyone else.

Are you saying Anatoly chernyaev never wrote this diary? or that it is the possession of the National Security Archive?

The Diary of Anatoly Chernyaev

tbh i cba searching through the entire document list thats what investigate journalists are for, pretty much like guy who wrote the article i posted!!!

You can say and convince yourself this has not happened but the facts are there. Even if you don't believe the article about liebour there is enough stuff out there about the unions being infiltrated and as we know the unions rule liebour. Liebour getting hijacked seems to be a recurring problem for them, today its radical Islam but that's another story!

BBC NEWS | UK | Jack Jones 'worked for KGB' claim

There is another article for you throw at your magic crystal ball.

If you still want to discredit them story's you can not discredit the fact that most of liebours ruling class have at one point in there life been involved some form communist, Marxist, Trotsky or some other far left party or group. Then you tell me the liebor party aren't commys pmsl

Like you say 'Read SHITE know SHITE.' and being a self admitted socialist you would know!!!!
 
Different systems simply explained:

Socialism: You have two cows. The government takes one and gives it to your neighbour.
Communism: You have two cows. You give them to the Government, and the Government then gives you some milk.
Fascism: You have two cows. You give them to the Government, and the Government then sells you some milk.
Capitalism: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.
Nazism: You have two cows. The Government takes both and shoots you.
New Dealism: You have two cows. The Government takes both, shoots one, buys milk from the other cow, then pours the milk down the drain.

As you can see, all systems have flaws.

:)
 
...you can not discredit the fact that most of liebours ruling class have at one point in there life been involved some form communist, Marxist, Trotsky or some other far left party or group. Then you tell me the liebor party aren't commys pmsl.


Do you have a degree in bullshit m8y or do you just make this stuff up as you go along?
 
All that's required is to note the declared aims of the union leadership who are the labour paymasters.
 
Do you have a degree in bullshit m8y or do you just make this stuff up as you go along?



This is for you nara, i dont need a degree in bullshit altho these guys have!!!!



Peter Mandelson (first Secretary of State and Labour Supremo):
"Mr Mandelson was born into a Labour family - his grandfather was a Labour Cabinet minister Herbert Morrison - but he rebelled and joined the Young Communist League after Labour supported the United States' intervention in Vietnam. It was during this period that he attracted the well-documented attention of the MI5 intelligence service."
He, along with Clarke and other labour politicians spent time in Cuba in 1978 (see below - Cuba was the main training camp for Cold War terrorists and subversives).

Charles Clarke (one time Home Secretary and Education Secretary)
"He was educated at Highgate School and later King's College, Cambridge, gaining a BA in maths and economics. Mr Clarke was president of the NUS from 1975 to 1977 before becoming a councillor in Hackney from 1980 to 1986. Interestingly, as a radical Marxist he spent a whole year in Cuba, organising the 1978 World Youth Festival, which was also attended by future New Labour modernisers Peter Mandelson, Paul Boateng (ex Chief Secretary to the Treasury) and Fiona McTaggart (ex Under Secretary of State)."


Alistair Darling (Chancellor of the Exchequer):
"Darling attended the University of Aberdeen and earned a Bachelor of Laws. In 1977, Darling was a supporter of the International Marxist Group, part of the Trotskyist Fourth International."

Alan Johnson (Home Secretary)
Johnson, currently Home Secretary, is quoted as saying: "I wasn't a Trot," he insists. "I was more CPGB [Communist Party of Great Britain]. I did consider myself to be a Marxist - I read more chapters of Das Kapital than Harold Wilson."

John Reid (one time Minister of Defence, Home Secretary and Northern Ireland Secretary):
"I have known John Reid as a Communist, as a member of the Scottish Labour party and now as a general in the New Labour Army. His march across this ideological battlefield has been seamless with not a hint of embarrassment. But John is an able person, one of the most able in New Labour's high command. They put him up to deliver the message. And they are right, he is a very capable, articulate figure," said George Galloway, the Labour MP for Glasgow Kelvin.


Bob Ainsworth (Minister of Defence)
"In a number of newspaper stories last week, it was suggested that the latest Defence Secretary, Bob Ainsworth, had been - at the age of 30 - a 'candidate member' of a body called the 'International Marxist Group'. The IMG, originally associated with the prominent student revolutionary Tariq Ali, was a Trotskyist group active in the 1970s and 1980s, whose members at one stage adopted the slogan "Victory to the IRA"."

Political Thoughts: The Roots of New Labour
 
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