Netgear fvs124g

[MFCGMFC]

hey all

in regards to the thread title can anyone get any better than 11.5mbps throput on this router? is there afw upgrade that i don't know of ? i'm not alone in this?

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MFCGAVMFC

 

[karym6]

you are using wireless?

 

[MFCGMFC]

no i run an ouput to my wireless router from this one

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MFCGAVMFC

 

[karym6]

ok, is your pc connecting direclty to this device? Or are you connecting to your wireless router first?

 

[MFCGMFC]

the throughput of the router is 11.5mbps mate, i'm wondering if there is a fw upgrade out there that takes it up to more?

netgear to pc
wireless router
main pc
server

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MFCGAVMFC

 

[karym6]

in that case, what sort of rules do you have set up in its firewall? I notice that this is a firewall with four gigabit lan ports. If the firewall is configured with many complex rules, this would slow down the throughput of the device.

Do the admin screens show the speed going into the device, and the speed leaving the device?

 

[MFCGMFC]

not that i know of mate, see if i disable the firewall on it then connect it to my wireless router then just use the firewall on my wireless router would that be ok?

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MFCGAVMFC

 

[karym6]

well, it wont be as good as the firewall on your fvs124g, but might increase your speed... Make sure you have at least the firewall on your router enabled before doing this..

 

[MFCGMFC]

on the spec sheet it says the wan ports are 10/100 and the lan ports are 10/100/1000, would i just be better sticking a pc together and running pfense or wingate?

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MFCGAVMFC

 

[karym6]

the ports will be rated for those speeds, however any firewall will slow down the traffic passing through. For instance, where I work, one of our firewalls slows a gigabit network down to 234mbps, which is quite an overhead.

If you connect directly to your other router, does the speed increase?

 

[MFCGMFC]

no it stays the same, do you thnk i would be able to push 20mb plus out of this router?

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MFCGAVMFC

 

[karym6]

if the speed doesnt increase when connected to your other router, then it may be something on your PC that is causing this? Do you have any other machines with this problem? Is this slowness only within your LAN, i.e do you get faster speeds across your network ignoring the internet?

 

[MFCGMFC]

hold on a minute mate lol

I want to have 2 modems connected to this router each with the 20mb config so i can push get 30mb+ download and 2mb upload

is this router capable of these speeds?

some people say yes and some people say no

I don't think i explained it well enough, my bad, thanks for taking the time to answer my question btw mate

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC

 

[karym6]

ok, I take it that you have the FVS124g due to its dual WAN feature? Having two 20mb connections wouldnt mean you would have a 40mb connection, you would just have two 20mb connections. Essentially, it wont work the way you have planned it as the router will only ever route traffic over one of these 20mb connections.

Now, the router itself has a hardware firewall built in, so this will slow things down straight away unless it is configured correctly, also with all that routing going on, things could become very slow indeed. The device spec only seems to mention load balancing, so if you had two 20mb connections, it will ensure you will get 290mb over both of them. On reading the spec further from the webpage, Netgear states you will only get 11.5mb throughput from the WAN to the LAN. In this case, the WAN is the internet and the LAN, well thats your network.

The answer is no, you will not get anything more than 11.5mbps going into your LAN from this device.

To confuse matters more though, you will always be getting at least 20mbps going into the WAN if you use two 20mb connections and set up load balancing. So basically there is no point having two 20mb connections, get two 10mb connections instead and see a very good connection for the money you are paying.

If this doesnt make sense, post back.

 

[MFCGMFC]

i get it now mate

thats what i was afriad of

looks like i'll have to delve into the world of wingate of pfense and build my own dual wan router

thanks for your help mate

1 router for sale in box lol £100 +£10 postagelol

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC

 

[karym6]

or, you could look at something like this: http://www.peplink.com/products/balance-30/

what you need is bandwidth combining - this would bundle up your two connections and treat them as one, something your current router doesnt do. If you dont need the firewall (it slows things down) then all the better, there are a number of soho dual wan routers out there that will give you a better throughput - but you will probably never gain a true 40mb connection.

 

[MFCGMFC]

or, you could look at something like this: http://www.peplink.com/products/balance-30/

what you need is bandwidth combining - this would bundle up your two connections and treat them as one, something your current router doesnt do. If you dont need the firewall (it slows things down) then all the better, there are a number of soho dual wan routers out there that will give you a better throughput - but you will probably never gain a true 40mb connection.

well as close as i can get to 40mb

then there is futureproofing aswell

thanks mate for all your help

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC

EDIt: the one in the link is only 25mbs throput, for increased throughput and the gigabit LAN ports i would need to look at the biggest (and most likely, most expensive) router which has 7 wan ports but gigabit lan ports

 

[karym6]

Hmm, I didnt see that there. Yes, for you to acheive your goal, you are going to have to look at something a little bigger.

It is likely you will verge into the small business/enterprise market for something like that - which will cost a fair whack. This is a pretty in depth Linux dual wan guide: http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1824/sam0201h/0201h.htm

However, what you are after seems to be fairly specialised. You may be able to do this with an old cisco 2600 series router, but this wont support gb ethernet - however, that wont be a problem for you if you have gigabit elsewhere on your lan (for instance between your server and your desktop etc).

 

[MFCGMFC]

there was a thread in the c*ble section for hacking a router and running an open source fw on it, that would suit me down to the ground but its away now so i need to look into other things

al have a wee gander at that page mate, thanks

Cheers
MFCGAVMFC

 

[karym6]

I saw that thread, but never read it.

However, here is a very good guide for using Linux as a router: http://koti.mbnet.fi/~keiky/misc/linux/router/lnx_router.html

It is very simple to read and follow, in your instance you just need to add an extra card to make it dual wan