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UPDATED guide to dvb-c - Noobs please read!!!!

This is an updated version of Ixalons guide - some of the information Ixalon gave was outdated but this is still based on his work!

Guide to UK DVB-C

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Guide to UK DVB-C
For educational purposes only!

What you definately need:
DVB-C PCI Card
Drivers and Software

What you probably need:
Common Interface Module (CI)
Conditional Access Module (CAM)
Funcard programmer
CAM programmer (ask nicely - forum members will do this cheaper than buying a programmer)
Funcard4 with AU software for your area

DVB-C PCI Cards
Ok, the main thing you need to get yourself is a DVB-C card for your PC. These are not sold in the UK (as there are no cable networks in the UK whom have T&Cs allowing you to connect your own equipment). However, all is not lost, on the continent (especially Germany) there's a large DVB-C card scene and a quick search should bring up a number of shops, all willing to send cards to the UK as there's nothing illegal about selling, buying, owning, importing or using DVB-C cards. DVBSHOP in Germany is a good place to start.

There are two main types of card, premium and budget. The difference between the two is that premium cards (TT2300) have a hardware MPEG decoder on-board and video outputs for connecting direct to your TV. On budget cards (TT1500 fireDTV/floppyDTV), your CPU needs to do the MPEG decoding, and thus uses more system resources. This isn't an issue with todays high power CPU's. Budget cards also use DBA drivers and are compatible with almost all software. You might struggle to find compatible software with premium cards and theres also the drawback of NO high def!

Plug in your card, install the drivers and software

At this point, download a services.xml file for your area which you can find in DBox forums. This will give you the frequencies and symbol rates for the transponders in your area - you'll find that just pointing your software to the frequencey and symbol rate found in the engineers menu of your STB wont get you all the channels, so it's best to give the software a headstart and provide it with the frequencies for as many transponders as possible. Youi probably won't be able to auto scan for channels - you will need to either enter each frequency manually or edit one of the transponder lists within your chosen software.

Fire these values into your DVB software and you'll be able to receive all of the Free-To-Air (FTA) channels available and get a list of all the other channels broadcast.

Now for the exciting stuff... As with STBs you need some way of decrypting the signal being sent your DVB-C card. This is done in one of two ways - software or CAM


Software Decrypting

The UK cable companies use nagravision, and there are a few bits of software available that can decode this encryption. Again, using software will mean a higher workload for your PC's CPU. You need to make sure you've got viewing software which works with whichever emulator you use. This usually goes into the plugins folder of your chosen software.
If the keyroll method changes then it will take down your softcam!
Recommended software:
Yankse/SoftCSA (for Windows) works with most software / cards - latest versions can be found for all areas on the forum

Hardware Decrypting

The alternative is to use a hardware solution, and provide a smart-card slot for your to put your card into. You need to make sure your PCI card has a Common Interface (CI) connector. Into the CI slot you plug a conditional access module (CAM), and into this, you insert your smart card.
In the nagravision system the CAM basically acts as an interface to the smart card. All the work is actually done on your smart card.
Setting up the CAM for use with a Smart Card
If you're using a multi-purpose CAM then your software should allow you to access the "CAM Setup Menu". On multi-purpose CAMs this lets you set things such as type (you want to select Nagra) and your IRD and boxkey (yes, you can define your own - anything you want!) Keep a note of these numbers - you'll need them for programming your card.
Next you need to make your smart card. I recommend that you simply program an AU fun4 for your area. When entering your IRD and boxkey, use the numbers you entered into your CAM setup menu.
Once you've made your smart card, insert it into your CAM and fire up your software. As with using STBs it may take a while for your card to update keys, but soon you should get access to the channels.
Recommended CAM - Joker 0.79 (Zeta CAMS and ICECRYPT cams can be reprogrammed with JOKER firmware. This is the easiest and cheapest method. Other CAMS can be used but the JOKER 0.79 seems to be the tried and tested method.

My recommendations would be.....
Card - TT1500 with CAM or FIREDTV or FLOPPYDTV
CAM - JOKER 0.79 (zeta or icecrypt can be flashed)
Smartcard - AU FUN4 with boxkey to match CAM for your area
This will give you full CAM decoding with access to the HD channels

SOFTWARE - This ones a minefield!!! I use mediaportal and vista MCE. Others inclue Mytheatre, dvbviewer and showshifter to name but a few
 
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If using MCE, do you need to actually have a real IRD and BK? Is there anyway to obtain these if you don't have an existing STB?
 
If using MCE, do you need to actually have a real IRD and BK? Is there anyway to obtain these if you don't have an existing STB?

No, you need a card programmed so the boxkey matches with the one of the cam. It doesn't need to be real though.
 
Thanks, this was EXACTLY what i was looking for. Well written.

I'm new to digtal worlds and so i cant download any of the guides for 10 days. I would be happy to donate, but i cant see what im donating for :-/
 
same here. I'm hoping to get virgin media working on my pc. Once i figure out what card to get and how to configure it that is.
Got a lot of reading to do mefinks
 
maybe a definitive list of cams that work for Hardware Decrypting would be useful - maybe members can post their experiences - would Dragon Cam for instance work ? - good post BTW :)
 
if i have vm already, can i get a budget card, and split the signal? im totally useless at dvb so could anyone explain in total noob for me what id need to get hold of to have vm on a media center pc?
 
if i have vm already, can i get a budget card, and split the signal? im totally useless at dvb so could anyone explain in total noob for me what id need to get hold of to have vm on a media center pc?
1. A cable splitter.
2. A DVB-C card. Budget cards will do. Technotrend 1500 is very popular.
3. A softcam like Vplug or Yankse/Fenrir. Can be downloaded from around here.
4. A DVB app like MyTheatre, DVBviewer, Mediaportal, etc.

That's it.
 
Hi All, This information was just what I was after - Thanks
Just one question - Once you are up and running, can the cable company dectect the connection? And if not would it be possible to connect up to 4 recievers without losing quality etc.
Cheers
 
Hi All, This information was just what I was after - Thanks
Just one question - Once you are up and running, can the cable company dectect the connection?
There's no talkback, if that's what you mean. The card will be as invisble as a Dbox or Dreambox. Some people claim the CC's could theoretically meassure the resistance on the line such extra equipment would produce from the green box at the end of your street, or wherever it may be, but I've never heard of anyone actually getting caught this way. It's obviously a good idea to keep your subbed box plugged in as well.
And if not would it be possible to connect up to 4 recievers without losing quality etc.
Yes, if your signal is strong enough. These cards tend not to need a very strong signal anyway, so chances are you'll be fine. If not, buy a booster.
 
Some people claim the CC's could theoretically meassure the resistance on the line such extra equipment would produce from the green box at the end of your street, or wherever it may be, but I've never heard of anyone actually getting caught this way. It's obviously a good idea to keep your subbed box plugged in as well.

Thanks for the advice.

I heard something similar, and someone also mentioned that the CC was investing in some sort of program that monitored the overall resistance coming from the green box at the end of the street (don't know how true that is). Once the box was highlighted they could then send an engineer out to do individual checks using m/meter.

That why I was a little concerened about connecting a few systems.

Could be just one of those CC myths, to scare off the weak amature (Me).
 
...And if not would it be possible to connect up to 4 recievers without losing quality etc.

You really shouldn't go beyond a total of 4 devices (modems/stb's etc) connected to the line at any one time or you move beyond the design limits for the system. It may work fine but the drivers in the cc's cabinets are really only designed to drive a maximum of 4 loads continuously.
 
Very good guide for newbies. Now to get the hardware. Any suggestions on a single dvb PCI card with a CI.
 
Just purchased one, thanks for the confirmation
 
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