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Just wondered if anyone actually MAKES stuff any more? From discrete components that is and not stuff like LED dice lol

Something useful that works.

Just wondered as I keep falling over the boxes of components in the garage and wondered about resurrecting an old hobby.

Or is it all a bit passé these days?
 
Making stuff from components whether it be your version of an existing object or something completely new is inventing. If inventing goes out of fashion we are stuck exactly where we are, and remember some of the common place items today are simple adjustments to something already there but not used in that way.
A hobby utilising items that you have to make something that suits your needs better stimulates the brain, gives you great satisfaction when it results in exactly what you want and who knows you may even invent an item that could become the next "big thing" and make you a fortune into the bargain or in most cases give your friends and relations a useful gadget they can also make.
I say stick with it @himHer
 
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I remember mucking around with veroboard, a soldering iron, and discrete components donkeys years ago.

Integrated circuits put paid to all that, but there was a particular sense of achievement and satisfaction when you did it all from scratch yourself. It also gave you a better idea of the basics of electronics.
 
I have to confess to being a member of the 'old school' here. I seldom bin anything electronic (well not until I've stripped it of anything potentially useful), and frequently get the soldering iron out to hack/modify or start from scratch.
As @nara says, great satisfaction is gained from creating something you actually want, rather than putting up with an 'off the shelf' offering.
Keep up the good work HH, I suspect our respective garages could be distant twins!!
 
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I think maybe cheap manufacturing in the likes of Asia put paid to a lot rather than just the appearance of the IC although that probably didn't help any.

I do remember giving Rockwell a bell and asking if there was anything they could send on the 6500 microprocessor family.

They sent a box of stuff that was the entire technical specification of the whole series - gratis!

Got quite a few decent projects out of that - can't see it happening nowadays lol
 
Finding the time seems to be the problem for me, and sometimes I want to do something different considering that my day job involves designing electronic things (I get to play with breadboard at work).

I've had an amateur radio licence for ages as well and used to build various bits. Prior to that I used to get some of the magazines, Practical Electronics, did that become Everyday Practical Electronics?

I was going to get round to a M68k single board computer, or I do have some Z80s, I have a couple of Alan Clements' books on the M68k as it was in my university syllabus.

If anyone wants to design anything I'll give them a hand if I can find the time :).
 
If you want know summat about writing 6500 assembler and stuff...

...oh! you fell asleep lol
 
If you want know summat about writing 6500 assembler and stuff...

...oh! you fell asleep lol

I have programmed one after assembling by hand at college :D.

Last experience I had with that family was trying to reverse engineer something built around a 6502 variant, I didn't get very far as I couldn't find a complete datasheet.
 
I have programmed one after assembling by hand at college :D.

Last experience I had with that family was trying to reverse engineer something built around a 6502 variant, I didn't get very far as I couldn't find a complete datasheet.

Ah, I got a little further I guess. Built dedicated controllers, wrote a mini-OS and dumped it to EEPROM, added static RAM and IO. Went on to write 6502 assembler to dump MS Basic via IEEE port (Commodore Pet) to RS232, captured to DEC VAX and wrote a cross-compiler to convert MS Basic to Fortran.

Years ago M8 - maybe I should write to a museum lol
 
I made the windscreen wipers fully variable speed on an old MK IV Cortina I had (vero board, lm555, couple of resistors, a cap. & a pot. If memory serves). Wish I'd patented that idea.
Haven't touched a soldering iron for years though.
HH.

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Nothing too complicated here. Mostly Practical Electronics/Practical Wireless projects.

Ah memories! The smell of hot solder burning flesh.
 
Nothing too complicated here. Mostly Practical Electronics/Practical Wireless projects.

Ah memories! The smell of hot solder burning flesh.

Excellent training for the 'little ones' - this soldering iron, him very hot lol
 
I used to be dj'ing and once built an FM transmitter that went about a quarter of a mile.

I worked with a guy that used to build all the transmitters for the pirate radio stations he was on a mint, he used to be so involved, he would have these massive can filters to stop interference, and he even made it for one set of people where they had two transmitters... one in the house where the station was and the other on top of a nearby building, to keep the DTI off their back :)

I used to repair PMR (Private Mobile Radio) more accessories than the radios but I did a few now and then with help from the main engineers, even went to college and got a btec and city and guilds level 1/2 in electronic systems :)

For the life of me I do not know how I passed them, some of the stuff was well over my head!

Used to enjoy it, just do not have the time anymore.

Mick
 
love this thread.
See some mileage in a forum section geared to this kind of stuff ie hobby projects and some basic skills instructions as there seems to be a bit of a knowledge base within the forum. @Mick ?
 
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PMR? Not Pye Cambridge systems? Or is that before your time lol

Before my time lol

What the cabbies use, Motorola was the biggest brand we dealt with... But there was loads of brands operating on the UHF frequencies
 
Before my time lol

What the cabbies use, Motorola was the biggest brand we dealt with... But there was loads of brands operating on the UHF frequencies

Right! Pye Cambridge was the system before cabbies UHF. Operated on VHF. Mostly Police. We used to mod them for 2m Amateur band. Nice box. Had an option to do channel switching using crystals (that's before synthesised frequency stuff).

Modded Motorola stuff to 70cm band - easy tweak :)
 
Oh dear, this thread is going to be very dating! I've got a loft full of components gathered over the years, mostly obsolete.

It all started with a crystal set, early teens, that should give you some idea! Around 20 yards of aerial, water pipe earth, and all I ever got was mains hum!:Biggrin2:
Progressed in stages, from there to a "miniature" 7 valve (6K7 push-pull o/p no less) superhet, using mainly ex WD components (about the size of a small suitcase).
Bending aluminium for a chassis, holes for valve holders, winding coils, controls all over the place etc, just for clear radio Luxembourg. Soon got fed up.

Then the next "big" thing, transistors. Started with just red spot (AF) and white spot (RF), yellow/green spot (who knew) they didn't even have numbers!
Shortly afterwards, the messy business of making PCBs, mainly modified to suit, but occasionally designed from scratch, never got on with Veroboard.
Interesting, but adolescent life eventually got in the way. When that stabilized, I still had a passing interest repairing TVs as a sideline, back in the days when people could manage without one for more than a few hours. I gave up round about the time VCRs became available, too complicated to be worth the bother, and a bit of a throwback, rather like wind turbines.:)
I still have 2 oscilloscopes, gathering dust, one circa 1980, the other around 1995.

By the time the hobby interest returned, everything had to be "digital". I enjoyed working out how to make things I needed with the early CMOS logic chips, but published designs for digital dice and digital egg timers etc just left me cold. I got into PICs for a while, but the novelty soon wore off.

Looking back, the most useful home built items have been the more specialized test gear, some still in use, some mothballed for memories. They were less mass produced, and cost effective to build. Even these are incorporated in the higher end multimeters now, and surface mount has just about put an end to anything I can reasonably make, or even repair.

Still can't resist the occasional dabble though. Last year I fancied a more powerful ultrasonic cleaner, somewhere between the "toy" ones and the expensive industrial versions. I ordered a couple of ultrasonic transducers from China first, because of the shipping delay, so committed before really totting up the total component cost. Along the way, another programmer had to be built for the microprocessors. It's essentially two separate transducer ccts sharing a common bath, each sweeping the most effective cleaning frequencies to different patterns, when used in tandem. It fizzes and spits a lot, and worked well on a few test objects. Total cost around £200, a lot of interest building it, but never used it since. I saw the Australian version recently on U tube. It's an orbital sander attached to an old oil drum, with bungees.
I feel so silly now!:Biggrin2:
 
Used to make stuff all the time mostly projects in mags but occasionally use bits of one project added to another to make something else, as i learnt more about what i was doing.... at college doing onc and hnc in electronics. Did do some design and build during my apprenticeship with 7400 texas ttl stuff which was good fun.

Mostly all i do now is repair stuff if its a circuit you can repair, most often nowadays its surface mount or two discrete components and a chip that costs 3 times the cost of a replacement of the complete thing.

Mind you have you seen the soldering on most things now it is rubbish, the supervisor that all the apprentices had to work for in the wiring workshop would be turning in his grave to see it... in hindsight although we all hated working in that department all of us without fail could solder a joint to military spec upside down and in poor light once we finished in that department. Its amazing the places you ended up when installing cable looms in Frigates.
 
I built a MW radio years ago as part of my Novice RAE...

No time or patients anymore to build.....

Although if I can repair something, I will....
 
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