CCTV question

[silverdale]

What's the law on were a camera can point at the front of a property on a street ?, what can they show?

 

[Joe Noodles]

Not much but I hear you need a sticker/notice if you want to use footage as evidence
I have cameras front and back plus ring door beel and have nothing telling people
have told the neighbours thats it

 

[kegnkiwi]

I live in a culdesac and have a ptz camera looking at my cars and also the whole street. Others have since bought cameras since I showed them we had been visited one night. Due to my cameras being lower down than others it gives a great view of our street. The neighbours had some damage done to their car one day and came and asked for footage as their cameras were from above. We found it and they gave it to their insurance people and they claimed it off the guy who did the damage and drove off.

 

[silverdale]

I have cameras back and front both very restricted to what I can see my property only up to fence height.

My neighbour who's not all there knocked 6 months back asking to see them so I happily showed them via my phone.

In her next breath she accused me of "spying" on her and her grandkids kids in her garden.
I was taken back by this remark of basically calling me a paedo but I didn't bite I just said whatever.
Her grandkids are not allowed over as she suffers from acute OCD.

Today she's having cameras fitted which is fine by me so I got chatting to the install guy. He said rear cameras cannot show any part of my garden but he said front facing can show anything not restricted and the ladies having wide lense 3.6mm and from were there positioned they will virtually cover the front of hers and my property and up to my door step.


I requested to see its positioning before he leaves and he said he doesn't have to show me I need to ask the owner which I know what the answer will be.

That's why I asked about the front as I know the guy is restricted by law but he reckons not the front I'm sure he's read the legal pack on were and what they can see facing onto a road.

I've gone out my way to make sure mine are non intrusive but I've a feeling her front camera will be zoned in on my garden and doorstep 24/7

 

[silverdale]

Her newly installed rear camera points side-on not rear facing out towards the garden but directly into thier side conservatory door but this includes our fence and my back door and garden.

 

[Spectre]

Her newly installed rear camera points side-on not rear facing out towards the garden but directly into thier side conservatory door but this includes our fence and my back door and garden.

I thought you were supposed to use the masking facility in the camera to blank off any area that wasn't inside your boundary. Might be wrong, but I did a bit reading when I was going to install some.

Nothing a permanently powered directional UV light won't disrupt.

 

[silverdale]

They never answer the door so I stuck a note through asking would it be possible to see were its pointing as it's pointing towards my backdoor and hottub.
They knocked on mine asking the same question and I didn't hesitate showing them via my phone and they were happy with it.

She knocked about 10 minutes ago on a wild one. Ranting about not scared of you, I've logged everything you do to the Police and whole neighbourhood will be glad when you've gone. Basically refused so that tells me she's hiding something or just been awkward.

The "We've logged everything you do to the police", should be an interesting read to the Police

Painting fence
Cut grass
Watering plants
paint fence again
Throw ball back to other side
Killing ants
water plants again
Changing filter in hottub

I bet that's logs up there with the Lenny McLean's biography

 

[digidude]

as pointed out, anything viewing into your back garden (or side if not viewable from a front public footpath) should use the softwares 'privacy mask' feature to block it out. Most DVR/NVR's can set up 4 privacy zones per channel.

If you have a hot tub in the garden, phone the police on 101 (as not an emergency) and ask for a PCSO to call around, tell them you believe they have been recording your kids / neices / nephews / friends kids who have been playing in the hot tub, and you have asked to see if it is recording your private garden, and you was met with abuse. Theyll rapidly get a visit.

For front facing cameras, anything that can be seen while standing on a public footpath, can be caught on camera. You MUST display something on the front of your house stating that CCTV is in use, even if its a little 2" square sticker in a corner of a window

 

[silverdale]

Thanks well the husband came round all systems blazing. She then pipes up and says,
"I'm investigating you, I'm logging what you do, I know alot about you."

F##k me what a boring read that will be

She said, "I saw you in Tesco ranting raving shouting your head off",

Wasn't me


She said "The cameras are here to stop you going in our garden"

Ive never been in their garden ever


I've contacted the council and Police let them deal with it. They are not all there.
She's paranoid, schizo I'm just glad my eldest son was here to back up what she said.

One more thing she said that made me think "Don't worry, the camera will record everything you say" and she pointed to the new front camera.

Are they allowed to record sound ? Especially the back camera which is only 6ft from my fence were we all sit out

 

[Rumpelstiltskin.]

Never a boring day in your life

 

[silverdale]

I'm a quite placid kind of guy, anything for an easy life,
My neighbour is tailing me lol

I wish I was a scientist, those are the neighbours you need

 

[silverdale]

To live door to a brewery and have free beer till you die !


It's the stuff of fairy tales

 

[alex123]

Put a dummy camera pointing to her bedroom

 

[copex]

What's the law on were a camera can point at the front of a property on a street ?, what can they show?

where in the world are you, laws very depending on location

 

[silverdale]

UK England

 

[silverdale]

Put a dummy camera pointing to her bedroom

The thing is when you start with that I always think to myself, don't, you'll end up like them.
The issue I have is, the camera is pointing towards our hottub. It's attached to the rear of their property facing out but they've turned the lense 90 degrees. It doesn't point facing out to thier garden or gate but it's directed straight towards my property.
The camera could very easily been put on the side of their property then angled to face up or down the path drive and shed.

The way his cameras positioned the only thing that could be stop him from perving (them seeing us) is software at the DVR end. If I can see the lense full face then with software tweaks they could see us.
It's all fine showing the council or police footage on the day saying, "We can't see them" but what happens when they've gone?. With my cameras they face onto my property, not angled as I have no interest in anything else bar looking after my own.

His camera covers absolute nothing of his property bar parts of the dividing fence and my garden/hottub.
Anyway, I've contacted the Council and reported it so hopefully someone calls out and has a word.
If not,
Laser pen time

 

[copex]

UK England

you should follow the guidance from.
Domestic CCTV systems - guidance for people using CCTV

So the law is complex but the basics are you can not point a camera at a neighbours property or at a public area ( the latter changes if you register with the ICO ) , you have to be able to prove the the cameras view is for legitimate reasons, for example my camera covers the publice area out side of my house so i can monitor my vehicle but you can not see the house across the road.

I have signs showing CCTV is recording.

hope it helps

 

[silverdale]

Thanks for the advise, I'll have to read up alls I know it's pointing my way. The lense is lowered slightly but we all know what wide lense cameras can capture.

I'm gonna to leave it with the Council and Police as he refuses to talk about it saying I'm moaning.

 

[digidude]

a 12V infra red flood light (invisible to the naked eye) would blind the camera, the IR has obviously been installed to improve the night vision of your own cameras, and if his camera wasnt pointing directly at your property, then his view wouldnt be affected by it

 

[rawsy]

It varies across regions. I think it is council bylaws that dictates what you can and can’t do in the Uk.