PORN ID Checks to be introduced

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A nine-month countdown to the introduction of compulsory age checks on online pornography seen from the UK has begun.

The April 2018 goal to protect under-18s was revealed as digital minister Matt Hancock signed the commencement order for the Digital Economy Act, which introduces the requirement.

But details as to how the scheme will work have yet to be finalised.

Experts who advised ministers said the targeted date seemed "unrealistic".

The act also sets out other new laws including punishing the use of bots to snatch up scores of concert tickets, and mandating the provision of subtitles on catch-up TV.

Credit cards
The age-check requirement applies to any website or other online platform that provides pornography "on a commercial basis" to people in the UK.

It allows a regulator to fine any business that refuses to comply and to ask third-party payment services to withdraw support.

The watchdog will also be able to force internet providers to block access to non-compliant services.

Ministers have suggested one of several ways this might work would be for pornographic sites to demand credit card details before providing any access, since in the UK consumers typically have to be over 18 to have a card of their own.

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But the specifics are being left to the as-yet unappointed regulator to determine.

While it has been proposed that the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) will assume this role, a spokesman for the Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport said the appointment would not be formalised until the autumn.

"We are already working closely with DCMS to ensure the effective implementation of the act," a spokeswoman for the BBFC told the BBC, but added that it was too early to say more about what guidance it might issue.

'Premature date'
The measure has been welcomed by child protection charities including Childnet.

"Protecting children from exposure, including accidental exposure, to adult content is incredibly important, given the effect it can have on young people," said its chief executive Will Gardner.

"Steps like this help restrict access."

Mindgeek, which operates several of the world's most popular porn sites, has also previously indicated support.

But two experts who advised the government on its plans have expressed reservations about both how quickly the scheme is being rolled out and its wider implications.

"It seems to me to be a very premature date," commented Dr Victoria Nash, lead author of a report commissioned in the run-up to the law being drafted.

"The idea you can get a regulatory body up and running in that timeframe seems extraordinary to me.

"And while I don't have a problem with asking these companies to act responsibly, I don't see it as a solution to stopping minors seeing pornography."

This, she explained, was because the act does not tackle the fact that services including Twitter and Tumblr contain hardcore pornography but will not be required to introduce age-checks. Nor, she added, would teens be prevented from sharing copied photos and clips among themselves.

"It may make it harder for children to stumble across pornography, especially in the younger age range, but it will do nothing to stop determined teenagers," Dr Nash concluded.

One cyber-security expert on the same advisory panel was more critical.

"The timeline is unrealistic - but beyond that, this is one of the worst proposals I have seen on digital strategy," said Dr Joss Wright from the Oxford Internet Institute.

"There are hundreds of thousands of websites where this material can be accessed and you are not going to catch all of those.

"There's privacy issues - you're requiring people to effectively announce the fact they are looking at this material to the credit card authorities.

"And there's serious security issues from requiring people to enter their credit card details into untrusted sites.

"They may well say there will be other magical ways to do the age check, but I very much doubt they will be non-discriminatory [against adults without credit cards], transparent, privacy-preserving and secure for end-users."

Bot bashing
Other topics covered by the act on which work can now formally begin include:

  • requiring video-on-demand programmes to contain subtitles as an option
  • making it a criminal offence to use automated computer programs, known as bots, to bulk-buy event tickets before selling them on at inflated prices
  • simplifying planning rules to make it easier to install mobile and broadband infrastructure
  • raising the maximum penalty for instances of online piracy from two to 10 years
Some provisions set out by the act have already come into force, including the introduction of a "broadband universal service obligation" to give households the right to request download speeds of at least 10 megabits per second, and increased fines for firms behind nuisance calls.

"The Digital Economy Act is about building a strong, safe and connected economy," said Mr Hancock.

"It will secure better support for consumers, better protection for children on the internet, and underpin a radical transformation of government services."


SOURCE LINK:
Porn ID checks set to start in April 2018 - BBC News
 
Dumb.

Just some random thoughts:

1. Credit Card fraud will rise as scam sites will offer porn and snatch card numbers.
2. PCI compliance on porn sites since there going to be handling cards numbers - these would need to be transmitted to a 3rd party payment provider for validating the details are valid. These providers will want to charge for this service, so how can free porn sites offer this?
3. If a site is hosted outside of the UK by people living outside of the UK, they can't be enforced legally. Blocking is an option but tell me how big is this block list going to be? How are ISP's going to maintain it. They can't even block torrent sites effectively.
4. Sites behind services like CloudFlare have the real IP's hidden so blocking IP would not work. Domains blocking possible but with the size of the list ..... can you see them doing this on every web request you do (it would have to do all to see if it's a known porn site)
5. DNS blocking ineffective. google DNS, opendns, own DNS using root hints...
6. What about VPN? How will site know UK visitor.
7. What about Proxys? How will site know UK visitor.
8. What about porn contents on torrents, newgroups? covered?
9. Pre Pay cards that anyone can buy from supermarkets?
10. Sites like google images. Are they now going to validate every image to categorise?
11. ID theft for porn viewing will go on the up.
12. Some browsers have some built in VPN/Proxy support (Opera)... How will this conflict with laws.

Not really into web porn but seems to me it's a tad late to shoe-horn some filtering service into the web spec at this stage.
 
would we need to take credit card for our adult forum lol.

Mick
 
would we need to take credit card for our adult forum lol.

Mick

I know your joking, but under these crazy legislations yes (or some other form of identification).

I look forward to seeing the gov expect all the sites to rush into implementing asking for cc numbers.

You know what the scary part is ... the more this sort of stuff is push underground the worse it will actually be. How many porn sites will offer tor access ... and the moment you go there looking for pr0n who knows what else you may accidently find...
 
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm does this mean we get paid once we have an id:D
 
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